# Hobby Lobby volunteers nearly half a billion $ to US Gov't! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 28, 2012, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobby-lobby-volunteers-nearly-half-a-billion-to-us-govt/645384 "2012-12-28T14:45:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobby-lobby-volunteers-nearly-half-a-billion-to-us-govt/645384/1 "2012-12-28T14:45:08Z")
[Wow!](http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/27/hobby-lobby-faces-millions-in-fines-for-bucking-obamacare/?hpt=hp_t3) I knew these guys were all about Christian Values, but I had no idea they were so patriotic as well! Good on 'em! ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobby-lobby-volunteers-nearly-half-a-billion-to-us-govt/645384/2 "2012-12-28T15:04:05Z")
How long will paying 1.3 million a day will it take for them to reach non-profit status? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobby-lobby-volunteers-nearly-half-a-billion-to-us-govt/645384/3 "2012-12-28T15:33:37Z")
Stupid enough long enough and they’ll go bankrupt and be bought out by someone less stupid and ideological. ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobby-lobby-volunteers-nearly-half-a-billion-to-us-govt/645384/4 "2012-12-28T15:35:13Z")
- “Our basic point is the government can’t put a corporation in the position of choosing between its faith and following the law.”\* Corporations have faith now? I guess since they’re considered people… but couldn’t Hobby Lobby just tell their faithful employees not to take the morning after pill and then thusly they don’t have to pay for it? (Rhetorical, as I know the answer.) ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobby-lobby-volunteers-nearly-half-a-billion-to-us-govt/645384/5 "2012-12-28T15:42:12Z")
> [@stpauler](#): > > - “Our basic point is the government can’t put a corporation in the position of choosing between its faith and following the law.”\* Yes it can, Mr. Ardent Christian! Been proven in court many many times. The goverment may make reasonable accomodations, and the court may decide to grant more, but at the bottom line, the Rule of Law is superior to anyone’s personal beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobby-lobby-volunteers-nearly-half-a-billion-to-us-govt/645384/6 "2012-12-28T16:31:03Z")
What knocks me out is the boss doesn’t want to be funding abortions. But his employees presumably are paid in US currency which they can use for whatever they want, including abortions, IUDs, borning after pills and ritual infanticide. I call bullshit–he just doesn’t want to pay for health insurance for his employees because he’s a greedy SOB, and he’s using BC as an excuse. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobby-lobby-volunteers-nearly-half-a-billion-to-us-govt/645384/7 "2012-12-28T19:35:40Z")
> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#): > > What knocks me out is the boss doesn’t want to be funding abortions. But his employees presumably are paid in US currency which they can use for whatever they want, including abortions, IUDs, borning after pills and ritual infanticide. I call bullshit–he just doesn’t want to pay for health insurance for his employees because he’s a greedy SOB, and he’s using BC as an excuse. Well, it could be as simple as the guy just wanting to say “Fuck You” to Obama. Perhaps he wants this to go to court as the test case on Obamacare, hoping to have it declared unconstitutional in the SCOTUS. A long shot that I think he’d lose, but hey, maybe he thinks he’d win. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobby-lobby-volunteers-nearly-half-a-billion-to-us-govt/645384/8 "2012-12-28T19:50:47Z")
I love how they use inflammatory language like “abortion-inducing drugs.” Pro tip: even the morning after pill isn’t an “abortion-inducing drug” guys. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobby-lobby-volunteers-nearly-half-a-billion-to-us-govt/645384/9 "2012-12-28T19:55:12Z")
Thank you Hobby Lobby! I’m sure your $1.3 million a day will be well spent on more abortions, sex education, and gay soldiers than you can imagine! ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobby-lobby-volunteers-nearly-half-a-billion-to-us-govt/645384/10 "2012-12-29T01:57:16Z")
My sister used to work for Hobby Lobby, and she left because they have a glass ceiling. ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobby-lobby-volunteers-nearly-half-a-billion-to-us-govt/645384/11 "2012-12-29T03:19:39Z")
Thank you for sharing this story. I had no idea Hobby Lobby was founded by and still adheres to nutjob ideals. I can’t wait for the gubmit to give them the smackdown.