# Hochul \[Now NY Gov. Kathy Hochul\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 25, 2011, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hochul-now-ny-gov-kathy-hochul/583105 "2011-05-25T02:41:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hochul-now-ny-gov-kathy-hochul/583105/1 "2011-05-25T02:41:58Z")
Hochul defeats Corwin in NY special election. Hochul’s main campaign point was that the Ryan budget is a piece of shit. This was enough to turn the district dem for the first time in forty years. What does this mean going forward? [Link.](http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/05/democrat-kathy-hochul-win-upset-in-ny-26-medicare-vote-key-to-victory.php) ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hochul-now-ny-gov-kathy-hochul/583105/2 "2011-05-25T03:01:12Z")
Before the 2010 elections, the GOPers were all about "JOBS, JOBS, JOBS! After they won the House, they went about trying to kill the unions, kill Medicare, reinstate the Bush tax cuts and put on a sideshow with their 2012 candidates led by Bertha Trump. People are waking up a little bit and they are frightened a lot… ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hochul-now-ny-gov-kathy-hochul/583105/3 "2011-05-25T04:31:54Z")
It’s been a couple of hours sine the race was called and nary a mention on the Drudge Report, and the Fox News website has it deeply buried. They’re having a hard time figuring out how to spin this. I’m guessing that the plan will be to say that Ryan “started the conversation” on Medicare, but we didn’t really mean that we were going to get rid of it. The Republicans seem to have really botched this one. Swing and a miss. ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hochul-now-ny-gov-kathy-hochul/583105/4 "2011-05-25T05:00:00Z")
Given how quickly Gingrich had to run back and praise Ryan’s plan, and how much this sounds like a referendum on the Ryan plan, it will be very interesting to see what the national Republican position on the Ryan plan will be come 2012. At this point, I suspect that they’ll have to drop the Ryan plan and bring out a similar plan to avoid the nasty associations that seniors will have with the Ryan plan. How well they can do this without admitting failure may determine their success in 2012. ---
**Author:** ![Omega\_Glory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7c8e57/32.png) [@Omega\_Glory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omega_Glory)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hochul-now-ny-gov-kathy-hochul/583105/5 "2011-05-25T06:23:43Z")
Jack Davis will probably be blamed for taking votes that would have gone to Corwin. I have to say though, Hochul’s volunteers put in a lot of hours getting her name out there in the final stretch. I recall getting a few recordings for Corwin, but Hochul’s camp called nearly every day, sometimes multiple times, for at least two weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Cyberhwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Cyberhwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyberhwk)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hochul-now-ny-gov-kathy-hochul/583105/6 "2011-05-25T23:59:45Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > I’m guessing that the plan will be to say that Ryan “started the conversation” on Medicare, but we didn’t really mean that we were going to get rid of it. Or they’ll gloss over it and say Ryan and House Republicans were noble in trying to discuss a reality “the country just wasn’t ready to hear.” > [@Omega\_Glory](#): > > Jack Davis will probably be blamed for taking votes that would have gone to Corwin. Indeed. Even though Jack Davis [ran as a Democrat](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Davis_%28industrialist%29#Electoral_history) as recently as 2008. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hochul-now-ny-gov-kathy-hochul/583105/7 "2011-05-26T00:24:27Z")
> [@Omega\_Glory](#): > > Jack Davis will probably be blamed for taking votes that would have gone to Corwin. > > I have to say though, Hochul’s volunteers put in a lot of hours getting her name out there in the final stretch. I recall getting a few recordings for Corwin, but Hochul’s camp called nearly every day, sometimes multiple times, for at least two weeks. Nate Silver has already debunked that. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hochul-now-ny-gov-kathy-hochul/583105/8 "2011-05-26T03:09:48Z")
> [@Omega\_Glory](#): > > …Hochul’s camp called nearly every day, sometimes multiple times, for at least two weeks. This makes you want to vote _for_ her? ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hochul-now-ny-gov-kathy-hochul/583105/9 "2011-05-26T16:58:59Z")
> [@spark240](#): > > This makes you want to vote _for_ her? This makes you want to vote _against_ her? It’s election season. It comes with the territories. If you don’t like the calls, either get your vote in early (where and when applicable) or tell them to take you off their list. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hochul-now-ny-gov-kathy-hochul/583105/10 "2011-05-26T17:13:50Z")
Nah, the real reason Hochul won is that some voters heard that she’d once punched out a shark in a tank of acid with big spikes on the bottom. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hochul-now-ny-gov-kathy-hochul/583105/11 "2011-05-26T17:24:27Z")
> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#): > > This makes you want to vote _against_ her? > It’s election season. It comes with the territories. Not around here. **Omega Glory** said they called “nearly every day, sometimes multiple times, for at least two weeks.” That would come across as harassment to me. > [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#): > > If you don’t like the calls, either get your vote in early (where and when applicable) or tell them to take you off their list. Which list, the campaign’s? How do you tell that to a recorded message? ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hochul-now-ny-gov-kathy-hochul/583105/12 "2011-05-26T17:29:05Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Nah, the real reason Hochul won is that some voters heard that she’d once punched out a shark in a tank of acid with big spikes on the bottom. Putting the “H” on the front of her name was an excellent disguise, but you saw right through it! ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hochul-now-ny-gov-kathy-hochul/583105/13 "2011-05-26T18:53:23Z")
> [@spark240](#): > > Not around here. **Omega Glory** said they called “nearly every day, sometimes multiple times, for at least two weeks.” That would come across as harassment to me. > > Which list, the campaign’s? How do you tell that to a recorded message? They’re not always recorded. For those that aren’t robocalls, there are people. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hochul-now-ny-gov-kathy-hochul/583105/14 "2021-08-10T16:23:55Z")
Bumping this thread after ten years since she’s going to be Governor of New York in two weeks. What a ride. She won a House seat in 2011 to replace Chris Lee who resigned after it became public that he was using Craigslist to cheat on his wife. She lost that seat to Chris Collins who is now in jail for insider trading. She’s been Lieutenant Governor since 2015 and will replace Cuomo as Governor when his resignation goes into effect. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hochul-now-ny-gov-kathy-hochul/583105/15 "2021-08-24T13:09:49Z")
A good overview of (as of midnight last night) Gov. Kathy Hochul and the challenges before her: > **[Kathy Hochul becomes governor of New York as Cuomo leaves in disgrace | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/23/politics/kathy-hochul-new-york-governor/index.html)** > > Kathy Hochul was sworn in as New York's first female governor shortly after the stroke of midnight on Tuesday, replacing her disgraced predecessor, Andrew Cuomo, who resigned amid multiple scandals, including a report from the state attorney general... ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hochul-now-ny-gov-kathy-hochul/583105/16 "2021-08-25T07:14:45Z")
Does New York always inaugurate new governors at midnight instead of the more usual noon? Sounds awkward. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hochul-now-ny-gov-kathy-hochul/583105/17 "2021-08-25T17:25:47Z")
Don’t know. I seem to recall that past inaugurations in Albany were held during daylight hours. I know Ronald Reagan was inaugurated as governor of California late one night because his wife’s astrologer had said it would be more auspicious. Big news right out of the gate for Gov. Hochul: > **[New NY governor adds 12,000 deaths to publicized COVID tally](https://www.aol.com/news/ny-governor-adds-12-000-145951063-162836818.html)** > > New York Gov. Kathy Hochul promised more government transparency on her first day in office and by day’s end her administration had quietly delivered it by acknowledging nearly 12,000 more deaths in the state from COVID-19 than had been publicized by... ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hochul-now-ny-gov-kathy-hochul/583105/18 "2021-08-25T19:19:56Z")
FoxNews chyron: “Democrat Governor Kills 12,000 Americans on First Day In Office” No, not really. But they probably considered it. ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hochul-now-ny-gov-kathy-hochul/583105/19 "2021-08-25T19:45:42Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Does New York always inaugurate new governors at midnight instead of the more usual noon? Sounds awkward. According to the article linked below, Andrew Cuomo was allowed to specify the time of day when his term would end, and for some reason he chose 11:59 PM. > **[Mark the calendar: Kathy Hochul to become governor at midnight Aug. 24](https://buffalonews.com/news/local/mark-the-calendar-kathy-hochul-to-become-governor-at-midnight-aug-24/article_f13f75e2-fec6-11eb-855f-17829ff15b7d.html)** > > While Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo’s office, for a fourth straight day, would not publicly say Monday when Cuomo will depart his job, Hochul's officials said they have now officially been > [@Gyrate](#): > > FoxNews chyron: “Democrat Governor Kills 12,000 Americans on First Day In Office” > > No, not really. But they probably considered it. LOL, good one! ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hochul-now-ny-gov-kathy-hochul/583105/20 "2021-08-26T01:42:35Z")
> [@gkster](#): > > According to the article linked below, Andrew Cuomo was allowed to specify the time of day when his term would end, and for some reason he chose 11:59 PM. Okay, so he probably chose the time when the fewest people would be likely to be watching. Maybe he should have chosen 03:00 a.m. instead. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hochul-now-ny-gov-kathy-hochul/583105.md?page=2)