# Holcombe Energy Systems - The New Steorn? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 10, 2022, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holcombe-energy-systems-the-new-steorn/959192 "2022-02-10T03:07:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holcombe-energy-systems-the-new-steorn/959192/1 "2022-02-10T03:07:29Z")
The old timers here will recall us amusing ourselves [kicking around a free energy scam](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irish-company-invents-free-energy/369419/80) called “Steorn Orb” back in 2006. Over the last few days [Holcombe Energy Systems](https://holcombenergysystems.com/) have popped up on youtube, and on facebook running the same scam, with glossy videos and a website. Interestingly, headquartered in Dublin, same as Steorn was. I would suspect the two scams are related but the guy behind it (Robert Holcombe) is American and previously (or currently I don’t know) ran magnetic pain relief scams. I searched the website for the bit where they say “give us money” but there’s nothing obvious. I suppose they don’t want to put up anything incriminating, and instead wait to see who contacts them wanting to invest, and only hit them up for cash when they are sure they aren’t law enforcement. Their achievements are remarkable - they have found a new energy source called “electrical steel” which (are you sitting down?) is made of iron with small traces of silicon, manganese & aluminium. I suppose the key ingredient and what makes electrical steel special is the clever and carefully researched addition of the word “electrical” on the front of the word “steel”. And from watching their video I’ve learned they have found that if you put iron near a coil of copper wire conducting a current, the electrical fields around it are concentrated. Faaaark. That is just amazing. You could, like, make a transformer or generator or electric motor or, really, heaps of electrical devices with a breakthrough like that. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holcombe-energy-systems-the-new-steorn/959192/2 "2022-02-10T03:20:25Z")
I find it amusing that their website has a modern-looking, mobile friendly design pattern, and yet _still_ looks like any old crank/quack website. Is it the animated GIF? The poor typesetting? The colors? The content itself goes without saying, but I can tell this is a scam just at a glance. It could have been in Chinese and it still would have been obvious. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holcombe-energy-systems-the-new-steorn/959192/3 "2022-02-10T03:21:11Z")
Mrs Holcombe is a PR person according to her CV on the website. I blame her. ---
**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holcombe-energy-systems-the-new-steorn/959192/4 "2022-02-10T13:53:23Z")
The FAQs are priceless > How can you be getting more power out than in? Are you not violating the laws of conservation of energy? > The HES generates more power than is required to run it. This allows the HES to recycle a portion of its power output through an interface in a self-regenerating fashion, while simultaneously powering an electrical load. > Is the HES a perpetual motion machine? > The HES is not a perpetual motion machine in the classic sense of the term. The HES is run by a newly discovered power source –our unique ability to harness the magnetic force of spinning electrons in the atoms that comprise electrical steel to make usable electric power. Moreover, “perpetual motion” implies moving parts. The HES has no moving parts. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holcombe-energy-systems-the-new-steorn/959192/5 "2022-02-11T05:11:18Z")
Interestingly, I was put onto this scam by an acquaintance who had a severe head injury. He has money to invest as a result of a payout due to his injury. But sadly his mind isn’t what it used to be. I told him it was a scam but I’m not sure he believes me. After I posted this OP, my acquaintance showed me an email chain in which these scumbags tried to get him to send a substantial sum as an “investment”. He assures me he didn’t send the money but I am not sure whether he did or not. Possibly he did but he’s too embarrassed to tell me. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holcombe-energy-systems-the-new-steorn/959192/6 "2022-02-11T05:30:24Z")
The highlight for me so far has been watching the video, and hearing that the estimable Dr Holcomb pronounces his name “hokum”. The Hokum Energy System. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holcombe-energy-systems-the-new-steorn/959192/7 "2022-02-11T06:10:16Z")
Maybe he’s a prankster and the name is intended to be a clue, and the joke is on me. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holcombe-energy-systems-the-new-steorn/959192/8 "2022-02-11T11:04:42Z")
I’m still waiting for these guys to scale up their power system: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/A25FRpkbDxU/maxresdefault.jpg "TB4000 Free energy machine: The answer to the world's energy problems?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A25FRpkbDxU) Where is the _Super Fly_? ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holcombe-energy-systems-the-new-steorn/959192/9 "2022-02-11T11:18:28Z")
Seems far more promising than Holcombe’s efforts ---
**Author:** ![StopBSEnergyScams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@StopBSEnergyScams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StopBSEnergyScams)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holcombe-energy-systems-the-new-steorn/959192/10 "2022-04-28T15:32:55Z")
Yeah, it is all a bunch of BS. I know people that have invested and still think it is going to work…when I called them out on facebook, instagram etc I have gotten banned. They took down their page that had the “verified” report from DNV-GL but they didn’t take down the direct link: [DNV Certification](https://holcombenergysystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/DNV-Resized.pdf) It looks fake as hell…and if you go to the site to verify it on DNV Website [DNVGL - Find a valid certificate](https://certificatechecker.dnv.com/) Nothing shows up for Holcomb anything! ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holcombe-energy-systems-the-new-steorn/959192/11 "2022-04-28T21:38:25Z")
Ha yes I noticed this. I suspect they took down the link because I notified DNV (maybe many people did) and DNV threatened legal action. I asked them where the link went but have had no answer. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holcombe-energy-systems-the-new-steorn/959192/12 "2022-04-28T21:48:12Z")
I’m still waiting for my solar freakin’ roadways. ---
**Author:** ![StopBSEnergyScams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@StopBSEnergyScams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StopBSEnergyScams)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holcombe-energy-systems-the-new-steorn/959192/13 "2022-04-28T21:54:37Z")
I did as well! DNV never returned my email, but i guess that worked! What’s really interesting is that the uploaded content isn’t behind a login [https://holcombenergysystems.com/wp-content/uploads/](https://holcombenergysystems.com/wp-content/uploads/) and there some notable items in there including a PDF from 2019 saying they are planning on starting Manufacturing any week now haha ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holcombe-energy-systems-the-new-steorn/959192/14 "2022-04-28T22:01:50Z")
Don’t worry they won’t be necessary once Hokum Energy Systems gets its product up and running. Free energy for everyone! ---
**Author:** ![StopBSEnergyScams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@StopBSEnergyScams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StopBSEnergyScams)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holcombe-energy-systems-the-new-steorn/959192/15 "2022-06-22T13:49:45Z")
Ohhh man, they have irrefutable [Proof](https://holcombenergysystems.medium.com/irrefutable-data-on-the-holcomb-energy-system-in-action-2ff56b0ab451) ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holcombe-energy-systems-the-new-steorn/959192/16 "2022-06-22T15:36:47Z")
They had their “official launch” a few months ago. Still no products available. And still no Nobel prize awarded to Dr Hokum. What’s a man gotta do to get appropriate recognition these days? Is claiming to have overturned the whole of modern physics not enough? ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holcombe-energy-systems-the-new-steorn/959192/17 "2022-06-22T15:39:30Z")
To be fair, Nobel Prizes in Physics do tend to lag by years in most cases. But yeah, being able to buy one of these at Home Depot should be much faster and easier. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holcombe-energy-systems-the-new-steorn/959192/18 "2022-06-22T16:16:00Z")
Just send Dr Hokum money and your investment will ensure this breakthrough reaches the shelves even earlier. Could even be by Xmas. Probably not _this_ Xmas.