# Holiday Inn's controversial scene has been removed by AMC **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 14, 2009, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holiday-inns-controversial-scene-has-been-removed-by-amc/521190 "2009-12-14T05:06:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holiday-inns-controversial-scene-has-been-removed-by-amc/521190/21 "2009-12-14T17:37:54Z")
> [@mobo85](#): > > …I agree in that this is the best way to deal with things like that. Most definitely. I watched the Pixar shorts marathon on ABC Family a few weeks ago and noticed that, in _Knick Knack_, the boobs of the tanning lady have now been made smaller, and the starfish pasties on the mermaid have been replaced by a bikini top. The Wiki article discusses the changes: [Knick Knack - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knick_Knack) ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holiday-inns-controversial-scene-has-been-removed-by-amc/521190/22 "2009-12-14T17:52:01Z")
The edited version has been shown for years. I don’t remember seeing the blackface number as a kid in the 70s; I didn’t even know there was an issue until some time in the 90s. I have the DVD version, unedited, with the number in it. I think the “insensitive” part of the idea of blackface wasn’t so much the fact that the faces were black, but rather the stereotypical blackface portrayal, which included some implied assertions by “white” culture about “black” culture at the time. That aspect is jarring, but then again, so is the fact that almost all “Asian” characters are played by non-Asians, etc. ---
**Author:** ![maladroit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@maladroit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maladroit)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holiday-inns-controversial-scene-has-been-removed-by-amc/521190/23 "2009-12-14T17:57:22Z")
I’ve never seen the censored version. It’s my favorite holiday movie. And thanks a bunch for the earworm “Abrahammmm” 😛 Now I have to go turn on the radio. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holiday-inns-controversial-scene-has-been-removed-by-amc/521190/24 "2009-12-14T20:11:36Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > I just watched this movie on AMC last night. They showed the scene where Bing is painting her face in black… and then cut to \*after \*the show! It didn’t occur to me at the time that a scene was removed, but it makes sense…TRM I started to semi-watch the movie on AMC last night. Got to February and noticed all of the servants walking around in blackface and decided “I don’t need to see that song & dance again,” (I’ve seen the uncut version before) so I turned the channel and watched something else. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holiday-inns-controversial-scene-has-been-removed-by-amc/521190/25 "2009-12-14T20:27:24Z")
The inclusion of commercials and the editing of movies are why I don’t watch AMC anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holiday-inns-controversial-scene-has-been-removed-by-amc/521190/26 "2009-12-14T20:30:09Z")
> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#): > > We recently bought the original Popeye cartoons, which came with a disclaimer (I’m paraphrasing), something like, “These cartoons contain stereotypes which were wrong then and are wrong now. However, to pretend they didn’t exist would be to deny the history of mistreatment, and fail to learn from the past.” Their wording was much better, but that was the gist. I thought that was the right way to handle it. When Teletoon does their “retro” thing, the disclaimer is along the lines of “This cartoon is true to the time period in which it was produced.” And then I brace myself for characters in blackface. ---
**Author:** ![Sticks\_and\_Scones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sticks_and_scones/32/16951_2.png) [@Sticks\_and\_Scones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sticks_and_Scones)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holiday-inns-controversial-scene-has-been-removed-by-amc/521190/27 "2009-12-15T01:18:13Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > The inclusion of commercials and the editing of movies are why I don’t watch AMC anymore. Yeah, it was a rare thing for me to actually watch a movie on AMC. But then, Holiday Inn is one of my favorites and I have it on a VHS tape but no longer have a VHS player! (Unedited version, probably from the 80s.) ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holiday-inns-controversial-scene-has-been-removed-by-amc/521190/28 "2009-12-15T01:40:32Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I watched the Pixar shorts marathon on ABC Family a few weeks ago and noticed that, in _Knick Knack_, the boobs of the tanning lady have now been made smaller, and the starfish pasties on the mermaid have been replaced by a bikini top. The Wiki article discusses the changes: [Knick Knack - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knick_Knack) I could care less about that one way or another. In my opinion, the real loss in the revamped _Knick Knack_ are Bobby McFerrin’s last two “blahs” during the closing credits. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holiday-inns-controversial-scene-has-been-removed-by-amc/521190.md?page=1)