None of those movies are “liberal” or even especially political. Your cartoonish and inaccurate descriptions suggest to me that you have not seen any of them. You clearly have no idea what any of them are about.
Actors make excellent liberals - they are used to living in a fantasy world.
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Shodan
Yup, them there John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, and Ronald Reagan, they sure did live in a fantasy world, didn’t they?
I think part of it is that prolonged work in the artistic fields is going to involve extensive contact with the gay community (for whatever reason, gays seem to be disproportionately represented in these fields), and with that contact comes more tolerance and a tendency toward liberalism.
Another part might be that they do more travelling than average folk, and anytime you leave the US you’re going to be immersed in a more liberal culture. Over time that might sway one’s opinions.
Brokeback Mountain is currently the number one movie in the country. Syriana is not political. I personally always thought the Passion would make money but the reason the studios were afraid of it was not because it was religious but because Gibson wanted to film in original languages. Movies with subtitles rarely make money because Americans don’t like to read. It makes their heads hurt.
Just the opposite, I think. As Liberal pointed out, a lot of actors struggling through their early careers have experienced the very real world of economic hardship: low-paying McJobs, no health insurance, etc. I imagine that gives them some empathy for those in a similar position.
Anyone who belongs to the side of the political spectrum which embraces overt religiosity in place of science (ID anyone?) should be very careful about accusing the other side of “living in a fantasy world.”
And the award for “Best Performance in an Irrelevant Tu Quoque” goes to…
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Shodan
And the award for the most unintentionally funny placement of a signature goes to you as well.
Well, again, this is based on the false notion that only liberals care about the poor.
Of course, actors who make it to the top (those few who do) escape economic hardship by entering into a fantasy world. Therefore, they may tend to be pre-disposed to believe in fantasies for other people, too.
I’d like to thank my make-up artist, my plastic surgeon, and all the little people as well. And I pledge to use my award to help children everywhere.
You like me! You really, really like me!
Regards,
Shodan
I think it’s gonna be really hard to talk about this without implying something about the other side. If we say that they lean left because they care about X, then it necessarily implies that the right doesn’t care about X. That’s why I framed it less in terms of what they care about and more in terms of ideology. Surely, we would all agree that people on the left or right, or people who are libertarian and even authoritarian are capable of caring about the poor. It isn’t a question of what they care about, but of how they believe it is best to address the object of their concern.
Once I’m rich, I too will be a socialist.
After all, all you need is love. Give peace a chance.
Forgive me, you are my soulmate and friend, and I greatly admire your intellect, but that comment was not becoming of you. I am a rather average resident (or at least an average caricature of one) from a red state: little formal education, simple tastes, a strong faith in God, and fairly traditional personal values (for the most part). And while I realize that I’m no intellectual giant, I really don’t identify with the dumb fuck label. I think that dumb is as dumb does, and I wouldn’t be at all surprised to learn that many of the actors and artists themselves come from red states, at least originally.
Not under the specific right-wing criterion we’re talking about, ie. whether you voted for that particular right-wing dumb fuck of a tyrant in 2000 and 2004.
What? It won the GG award for best picture, but it’s never been #1 at the box office-- Yahoo list it currently at #9.
Puh-leeze. Syriana is a cartoonish version of the US government as the bad guys.
As for the OP, I think there is just a lot of speculation going on and no data. Is it all of Hollywood that gravitates left, or only the most visible part? Along the same lines, why do professional athletes tend to lean right (I assume this is as much common wisdom as is Hollywood leaning left)?
Boxoffice mojo has it #1 as of tuesday. It’s per screen average has been number one for weeks, it just hasn’t been in very many theaters. It opened a little wider last weekend but it’s still in less than half the number of theaters of all the other movies that it’s beating.
Not really. or at least, not that simplistically. Syriana is about how the oil industry corrupts everybody involved on every side, but is is not political in a partisan sense. It’s not about left/right ideology.
Hmmm. There’s something screwy about those numbers. Do you notice that Tuesday, for which it is listed as #1, has $ totals about 1/2 of every other day previously (not just for Brokeback, but for all the movies). That’s got to be preliminary data. Let’s see how it settles out when the final data is in. It’s only listed as #1 on that site for Tuesday (and it gives Tues’ numbers as estimates). I’m sure it’ll get a bump from the GG award, but I doubt it’ll reach #1, but we’ll see.
I doubt most people see it that way. The idea that the US government assasinates heads of states to placate oil executives isn’t what I’d call political neutral.
Hard to tell with the jock strap in the way though.
It’s been number one for one day (Tuesday, according to your site). IMDB has Glory Road has number one. Rating number ones is done on Monday by a weekly gross estimate. I agree with John Mace that Brokeback Mountain is number 9. Maybe with a GG push they’ll make number 1 this Monday (but they’ll definitely need to be released in more screens).
What are you expecting Farenheit 9/11? :dubious: I could’ve sworn I even heard George Clooney describe his last two movies as covering politics, which, incidentally, includes Good luck, Good night. Have you even seen both movies? I don’t understand your definition of politics and not come away from seeing the political motivations in that movie. What do you think of Lords of War?
The drop off on tuesday is because monday was a holiday…more matinee business on holidays. The last day there’s data for is tuesday and on tuesday it was number one. My point also still stands that it’s per screen average is huge. So the assertion that Brokeback wasn’t a commercially viable venture is hereby put to rest. It was made with an A list cast and director and it’s been hyped through the roof. It also isn’t “liberal” and doesn’t have a political message.
Then they don’t understand what they’re watching. That’s not the movie’s fault.
What’s partisan about it?
BTW, although I was nit-picking your Brokeback comment, I do tend to agree with you about your disagreement with Sam. Particularly in the case of Syriana. The public eats up those conspiracy theory type of thrillers. As for Brokeback, I’m sure the producers are thinking that the time might just be right for a movie like that to be accepted in enough households that it could make money. Even the cast of Will and Grace were joking at the GG awards that you had to have gay characters in your shows these days. What was taboo 20 years ago is standard fare now.