# Hollywood mountain lion p-22

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 14, 2022, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-mountain-lion-p-22/976533 "2022-12-14T21:23:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-mountain-lion-p-22/976533/1 "2022-12-14T21:23:59Z")

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p-22 has been located, tranquilized, and taken to have a health assessment after attacking a chihuahua. it is believed he had a car accident, that hampered his hunting.

p-22 is famous for being photographed by the hollywood sign and living in griffith park.

he is about 11-12 years old. i’m hoping he can have a nice retirement at a big cat refuge.

[Mountain lion P-22 unlikely to be released back into wild (foxla.com)](https://www.foxla.com/news/mountain-lion-p-22-unlikely-to-be-released-back-into-wild)

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-mountain-lion-p-22/976533/2 "2022-12-14T21:55:26Z")

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As long as they bring him a steady diet of chihuahuas I’m sure he’ll do fine.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-mountain-lion-p-22/976533/3 "2022-12-14T22:02:11Z")

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Sad.  
The poor thing.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-mountain-lion-p-22/976533/4 "2022-12-14T22:33:02Z")

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The average lifespan for a mountain lion in the wild is 8-13 years. P-22 has had a good life.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-mountain-lion-p-22/976533/5 "2022-12-14T23:36:14Z")

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> **[Natural History Museum Debuts New Exhibit about Mountain Lion P-22](https://laparent.com/natural-history-museum-p-22-exhibit/)**
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> Kids can learn a lot about famed Griffith Park mountain lion P-22 in a new exhibit at the Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County.

Here is a link that shows his famous Hollywood picture. I’m hoping he can live a few more comfortable years, he deserves a nice retirement.

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-mountain-lion-p-22/976533/6 "2022-12-14T23:46:57Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> it is believed he had a car accident, that hampered his hunting.

At a minimum they need to take his car keys away…

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-mountain-lion-p-22/976533/7 "2022-12-14T23:57:45Z")

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Those are some dark twisty roads up in those hills. Even cats’ famously good night vision gets crappy when they’re elderly. He had probably been drinking, took a curve too fast, & hit something.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-mountain-lion-p-22/976533/8 "2022-12-15T00:34:12Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> As long as they bring him a steady diet of chihuahuas I’m sure he’ll do fine.

Chihuahuas are high in vigor but low in quality. A proper diet for a mountain lion includes a wide variety of purse dogs, pet lizards, fancy cats, and the occasional trust fund heiress who got lost in the Hollywood Hills after staggering out of a late night party and rolled down the slope.

> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Those are some dark twisty roads up in those hills. Even cats’ famously good night vision gets crappy when they’re elderly. He had probably been drinking, took a curve too fast, & hit something.

At his age he should have a young cub to drive him around while he luxuriates in the back seat of his stretch limo, snorting lines of coke off of the belly of a sexy little ocelot on his way to the Chataeu Marmont for a “important production meeting” with Marty and Leo on his upcoming biopic, _King of the Celluloid Jungle_.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-mountain-lion-p-22/976533/9 "2022-12-15T03:26:29Z")

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> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#):
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> At a minimum they need to take his car keys away…

I salute you, sir!

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**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-mountain-lion-p-22/976533/10 "2022-12-17T21:45:24Z")

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P-22 was euthanized. Underweight, injured, possible mange, they chose not to release him.

StG

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-mountain-lion-p-22/976533/11 "2022-12-17T21:59:29Z")

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awwww weve spent years watching him off and on …usually when he decided to stop traffic by going across a 4 lane freeway during rush hour … one time he sat in the middle of one and cleaned his bits for 20 minutes and then realized he was on an errand and trotted off like he was a house cat

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-mountain-lion-p-22/976533/12 "2022-12-17T22:03:01Z")

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Okay, did anyone else read the thread title and wonder how they hadn’t noticed the previous twenty-one threads on this mountain lion?

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-mountain-lion-p-22/976533/13 "2022-12-18T00:59:15Z")

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The accident did quite a bit of damage. Poor dude. He had significant trauma to his head, eye, and internal organs. The trauma to his internal organs would have required invasive surgical repair.

He was found to have irreversible kidney disease as well as other pre existing conditions.

I’m sure they did all they could for him, and letting him go with dignity was the best decision.

He will live on in the wildlife crossing he inspired.

Here is the eulogy from nwf.

> **[A Eulogy for P-22, A Mountain Lion Who Changed the World](https://www.nwf.org/Latest-News/Press-Releases/2022/12-17-22-Eulogy-P-22)**
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> A Eulogy for P-22, A Mountain Lion Who Changed the World from Beth Pratt.

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**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-mountain-lion-p-22/976533/14 "2022-12-20T16:18:32Z")

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a memorial is being planned for p-22, after christmas. His body will be given to the county’s Natural History Museum, where it will be received by Ordeñana, the biologist who discovered him. there is talk of a statue of him for griffith park, and possibly a star on hollywood blvd.

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**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-mountain-lion-p-22/976533/15 "2022-12-20T16:28:42Z")

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There’s some momentum gathering to put up a bronze statue at the Observatory. There’s also been talk of taxidermy-ing him and putting him on display. I prefer the former and hope the latter does not come to pass.

Here’s my favorite of the many good photos taken over the years.

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkNeWzvVUAABdwB?format=jpg&name=large) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkNeWzvVUAABdwB?format=jpg&name=large)

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-mountain-lion-p-22/976533/16 "2022-12-20T18:21:38Z")

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oooh, that is wonderful. he looks so good and healthy there.

i would not like the taxidermy idea. perhaps they could compost him and use the soil to plant a memorial tree. compost is used for livestock and in some states humans.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-mountain-lion-p-22/976533/17 "2022-12-20T18:25:35Z")

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Breaking news now has it that it was all a publicity stunt to promote its new movie.

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-mountain-lion-p-22/976533/18 "2022-12-23T22:25:11Z")

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Well, there’s a mural for starters…

> **[New mural painted in memory of LA's famed mountain lion](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/ap-los-angeles-b2250894.html)**
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> An artist has devoted a sweeping new street mural to the memory of one of Los Angeles’ most famous residents: P-22, the celebrated mountain lion who lived in the city and was recently euthanized amid worsening health and injuries likely caused by a...
