# Hollywood Scandal

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-scandal/800597>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 3, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-scandal/800597 "2017-11-03T14:22:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-scandal/800597/61 "2017-11-05T05:37:23Z")

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He’s only barely a “movie actor” (although he was in _The Smurfs_ and _The Love Guru_), but…

John Oliver.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-scandal/800597/62 "2017-11-05T05:49:55Z")

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> [@ThisIsTheEnd](#):
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> I’m not sure if it was clear, but the backlash I was referring to was to the bandwagon. Making an accusation imparts no further obligation, in fact, it’s already gotten reduced to “#metoo.”
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> Some accuser will pick the wrong target soon and then we will enter Phase II.

Could you be more clear in what you are saying?

It appears you may be implying that you believe most of the recent allegations are made up. If that’s the case, why not come out and say so? If that wasn’t your intent, you might want to clear up the misapprehension.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-scandal/800597/63 "2017-11-05T07:04:27Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Bob Crane always seemed so nice and decent on _Hogan’s Heroes_.
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> More seriously, Paul Newman. I’m not much of a follower of celebrities, but I’ve heard a couple good things about him, and no bad ones. He was married to Joanne Woodward (his second wife, I didn’t know that) for fifty years.

Wasn’t Bob Crane found dead in some sexually explicit apparatus in a cheap hotel back in the 70s?

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-scandal/800597/64 "2017-11-05T09:59:43Z")

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> [@escaped](#):
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> Roddy Mcdowall
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> I dont hear much bad about Tom selleck.

Ew! The stories they used to tell about that poor, sad, boy. But it’s an interesting phenomenon that we tend to assume men we view as "wimps"will never be predators. In my limited experience though, there’s nothing more dangerous than a wimp who finds himself in a position of power. That goes for female wimps as well.

> [@NDP](#):
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> That’s kind of different than what the OP is asking for. I’m not necessarily condoning it but at least it was consensual. I think this thread is mainly about conduct that’s truly ugly, reprehensible, and (mostly) felonious like predatory sexual behavior, assault, and rape.
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> Also, aside from obvious jokes, it makes little sense to mention any women here at all. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen but the type of offenses discussed here are almost exclusively committed by males.

I have no reason to believe that they did, but Joan Crawford or Rosanne Barr back in their hey days? I would have had no trouble believing that they had passed on the abuse they’d received.  
I’d be utterly shocked to hear that Ron Howard had ever done anything like that. And add me to the list who were disoriented to learn the truth about Cosby.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-scandal/800597/65 "2017-11-05T10:05:11Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Wasn’t Bob Crane found dead in some sexually explicit apparatus in a cheap hotel back in the 70s?

Not quite. Bludgeoned to death and suspicion fell on a friend who helped him with video equipment to record his sexual encounters.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-scandal/800597/66 "2017-11-05T11:23:28Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> I’d be utterly shocked to hear that Ron Howard had ever done anything like that.

Luckily, Frances Bavier never wrote her memoirs.:eek:

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-scandal/800597/67 "2017-11-08T07:14:15Z")

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Just for a little levity:

Someone has [petitioned](http://www.indiewire.com/2017/11/house-of-cards-petition-kevin-spacey-kevin-james-1201895013/) Netflix to replace Kevin Spacey on _House of Cards_ with Kevin James.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-scandal/800597/68 "2017-11-09T14:49:47Z")

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Not a Hollywood celebrity but I just found out that [Mark Halperin](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/10/26/nbc-political-analyst-mark-halperin-apologizes-after-five-women-accuse-him-of-sexual-harassment-cnn-reports/?utm_term=.064968104366) from MSNBC has been accused of multiple sexual harassment incidents from the mid 90’s to the mid 00’.

Did not see that coming.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-scandal/800597/69 "2017-11-09T15:00:51Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> I obviously don’t know anything about these people, so I guess I’m never all that surprised when I hear that they have some secret scandal going on. That said, learning that Steven Spielberg is accused of sexual harassment or assault would be a pretty big surprise to me.

I agree, but not because Spielberg is some paragon of virtue. (He may well be; I don’t know.) He has kept such a high profile for so long that I would have expected anything that was going to come out about him to have come out by now.

Not Hollywood, but I would be very surprised to hear of any major sexual harassment scandals involving George W Bush or Barack Obama, largely for the same reason: they both have so many virulent enemies that anything that could have come out about them would have by now.

I really hope I am not wrong.

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-scandal/800597/70 "2017-11-09T16:59:29Z")

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Michael Cera  
Christopher Mintz-Plasse  
Emma Watson

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**Author:** ![The\_Big\_Poo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ed8c4c/32.png) [@The\_Big\_Poo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Big_Poo)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-scandal/800597/71 "2017-11-09T19:09:37Z")

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Latest allegation charlie sheen bummed corey haim

> **[Charlie Sheen denies Corey Haim sexual assault allegations ](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2017/11/09/charlie-sheen-denies-corey-haim-sexual-assault-allegations/)**
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> Charlie Sheen has denied allegations that he sexually assaulted late teen star Corey Haim, with whom he worked on the film Lucas in 1986.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-scandal/800597/72 "2017-11-09T19:27:52Z")

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Reports are that the _NY Times_ will drop a story, possibly today, alleging sexual misconduct by Louis C.K. He abruptly cancelled the premier of his movie and cancelled tonight’s scheduled appearance on _The Late Show_

> **[Louis C.K.'s film premiere cancelled ahead of New York Times story](https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/louis-ck-i-love-you-daddy-film-new-york-times-story-premiere-cancelled-a8046796.html)**
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> Just hours before it was due to begin

> **[Why Louis C.K.’s I Love You, Daddy Premiere Was Abruptly Canceled](https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/11/louis-ck-i-love-you-daddy-canceled-sexual-misconduct-new-york-times)**
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> A source close to the film says the abrupt change stems from an upcoming New York Times piece focused on the comedian’s alleged sexual transgressions.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-scandal/800597/73 "2017-11-09T19:58:40Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Reports are that the _NY Times_ will drop a story, possibly today, alleging sexual misconduct by Louis C.K. He abruptly cancelled the premier of his movie and cancelled tonight’s scheduled appearance on _The Late Show_
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> [Louis CK's 'I Love You, Daddy' film premiere cancelled 'ahead of New York Times story' | The Independent | The Independent](http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/louis-ck-i-love-you-daddy-film-new-york-times-story-premiere-cancelled-a8046796.html)  
> [Why Louis C.K.’s I Love You, Daddy Premiere Was Abruptly Canceled | Vanity Fair](https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/11/louis-ck-i-love-you-daddy-canceled-sexual-misconduct-new-york-times)

And [here it is](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/arts/television/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct.html). Pretty consistent pattern, which makes it seem pretty likely. Depressing, really. I was a fan.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-scandal/800597/74 "2017-11-09T21:05:13Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> And [here it is](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/arts/television/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct.html). Pretty consistent pattern, which makes it seem pretty likely. Depressing, really. I was a fan.

Sadly, I knew this about L.C.K. for some time now. What a pathetic a-hole.

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**Author:** ![ThisIsTheEnd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisistheend/32/4713_2.png) [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-scandal/800597/75 "2017-11-09T21:10:19Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Could you be more clear in what you are saying?
> 
> It appears you may be implying that you believe most of the recent allegations are made up. If that’s the case, why not come out and say so? If that wasn’t your intent, you might want to clear up the misapprehension.

I don’t think what I said was unclear, and I don’t care if you misapprehended it.

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**Author:** ![adhemar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@adhemar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhemar)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-scandal/800597/76 "2017-11-09T22:42:21Z")

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Patrick Stewart  
I am afraid to post his name for fear of someone linking a story about him.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-scandal/800597/77 "2017-11-09T22:58:08Z")

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Here’s one that would really, really suck:

George Takei

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2017, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-scandal/800597/78 "2017-11-10T04:11:02Z")

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> [@SpoilerVirgin](#):
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> Stephen Colbert, Sunday school teacher.

And a [dedicated](https://youtu.be/mkls_80xUDA?t=14)one at that.

Had they still been alive:

Margaret Hamilton  
Leonard Nimoy  
Ray Walston  
Julia Child  
Susan Boyle (ok she’s still kickin)  
Bea Arthur

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-scandal/800597/79 "2017-11-13T21:51:13Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Dakota Fanning.

Wish I had picked [Allison Mack](https://jezebel.com/smallville-actress-allison-mack-is-accused-of-recruitin-1820373279) as my joke answer.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-scandal/800597/80 "2017-11-14T14:44:45Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> Here’s one that would really, really suck:
> 
> George Takei

[Alas](http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/11/entertainment/george-takei-sexual-misconduct-allegation/index.html).

We’ll see how this pans out.

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