# Hollywood stars put into "Movie Jail" that you actually agree with **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 16, 2017, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616 "2017-12-16T05:57:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/21 "2017-12-16T19:02:35Z")
Damn ninjaed ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/22 "2017-12-16T19:06:04Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Whenever there are threads like this, it is a virtual certainty that Annie will post something that doesn’t quite match the question posed by the OP. I’m genuinely surprised when she actually answers one of these questions accurately. If you have a beef with what Annie X-mas posts, pit her. Keep your insults out of this forum. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/23 "2017-12-16T20:07:40Z")
Ciff Robertson, who was blacklisted for reporting a crime. He reported that Columbia executive David Begelman forged his signature on a check, and pressed charges, which led to Begelman’s departure and conviction of embezzlement. Robertson found it hard to get work in Hollywood for several years because of it. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/24 "2017-12-16T20:23:53Z")
> [@Leo\_Krupe](#): > > The one I think of is Michael Cimino: [Michael Cimino - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001047/?ref_=nv_sr_1) > > He directed Thunderbolt and Lightfoot, then The Deer Hunter. Then came Heaven’s Gate. After that, he became pretty much the butt of jokes. In looking him up, I see he died in July of 2016. Guess his career’s officially over now. I have to question this. Cimino wasn’t put into “movie jail” for some personal feud. His career ended for what seem like valid reasons. His movies went wildly over their budget and then failed to sell tickets. The studio executives who refused to hire him were doing so for sound business reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/25 "2017-12-16T20:43:56Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > Ciff Robertson, who was blacklisted for reporting a crime. > > He reported that Columbia executive David Begelman forged his signature on a check, and pressed charges, which led to Begelman’s departure and conviction of embezzlement. Robertson found it hard to get work in Hollywood for several years because of it. And you agree with his banishment to movie jail for that? ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/26 "2017-12-16T20:49:21Z")
Roman Polanski ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/27 "2017-12-16T21:00:48Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Roman Polanski I take it back. Apparently he did alright even though he was child rapist and a fugitive. He should have been put in movie movie-jail. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/28 "2017-12-16T21:08:24Z")
Steve Guttenberg. Because, he’s Steve Guttenberg. > [@Bayard](#): > > And you agree with his banishment to movie jail for that? It does seem like several people have missed the “agree with” part of the question… ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/29 "2017-12-16T21:42:36Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I have to question this. Cimino wasn’t put into “movie jail” for some personal feud. His career ended for what seem like valid reasons. His movies went wildly over their budget and then failed to sell tickets. The studio executives who refused to hire him were doing so for sound business reasons. I thought someone would. 🙂 That’s why I’m prepared. From the OP: > [@](#): > > or even just starring/directing/producing a bunch of major bombs in a role that completely saps a directors credibility. Generally if you see a director who directed something giant in the 80’s/90’s and then only worked on Sci-Fi channel original movies since, they’re in movie jail. Going by that, Cimino qualifies for this thread. Without the OP’s qualification, I’d be inclined to agree with you. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/30 "2017-12-16T22:05:29Z")
Ingrid Bergman had some issue with an illicit affair and out-of-wedlock children. With Rossellini. I think it was petty, what I remember of it. There were all those actors, writers and others caught up in the ‘House on Anti American activities’ hearings. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/31 "2017-12-16T22:13:35Z")
I would have supported putting Hitchcock in “movie jail” due to his declining talent. It seems his name kept him going despite a genuine decline in talent after Psycho. He had improved and improved up to that point, then just roller-coastered downwards. Some people would include The Birds, but I think that is a clear indicator he was losing “it”. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2017, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/32 "2017-12-17T00:14:45Z")
> [@Leo\_Krupe](#): > > Does it count as movie jail if the celebrity makes a comeback? Charlie Chaplin was of course a superstar in his Little Tramp days, then fell out of favor because he seduced minors Links: [http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/charlie-chaplin-seduced-just-15-5448940](http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/charlie-chaplin-seduced-just-15-5448940)[http://modernnotion.com/scandal-almost-took-charlie-chaplin/](http://modernnotion.com/scandal-almost-took-charlie-chaplin/) > > Of course, in the decades since, Chaplin is now revered again. The real reason Chaplin fell out favor in Hollywood was for[having leftist political sympathies during the McCarthy era](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Chaplin#1939%E2%80%931952:_Controversies_and_fading_popularity). The U.S. government cited this as the reason why they tried to bar his re-entry in the country in 1952 (even though it turned out they had no actual supporting evidence). ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2017, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/33 "2017-12-17T14:12:15Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > for[having leftist political sympathies during the McCarthy era](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Chaplin#1939%E2%80%931952:_Controversies_and_fading_popularity). The U.S. government cited this as the reason why they tried to bar his re-entry in the country in 1952 (even though it turned out they had no actual supporting evidence). The REAL real reason Chaplin fell out favor in Hollywood was the death of silent cinema. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2017, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/34 "2017-12-17T15:47:13Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > The REAL real reason Chaplin fell out favor in Hollywood was the death of silent cinema. Krupe’s 8th Law states: No one does anything for just one reason. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![caligulathegod](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/caligulathegod/32/9685_2.png) [@caligulathegod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caligulathegod)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/35 "2017-12-17T22:45:43Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > The REAL real reason Chaplin fell out favor in Hollywood was the death of silent cinema. He defiantly made two very popular “silent” films well into the sound era and rereleased an older film re-edited with narration as late as 1942 plus his five sound films. It was, as they say, a combination of things, but this really wasn’t part of it. If anything, he probably could have kept making silent films if he wanted to. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2017, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/36 "2017-12-17T23:02:39Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Wasn’t Katherine Heigl a huge pain to work with and ended up in movie jail? Here’s Box Office Mojo’s [list](http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?view=Actor&id=katherineheigl.htm) of her movie earnings. Take out stuff where she’s in a big cast or just doing voice work and it’s been pretty bad for the last several years. Maybe time for a _Zyzzyx Road II_. Throw in a couple failed TV series for good measure. Her mother/manager is the stage mom from hell. KH has taken on several of her mother’s traits. The word is out on her. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/37 "2017-12-18T01:04:06Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Ingrid Bergman had some issue with an illicit affair and out-of-wedlock children. With Rossellini. I think it was petty, what I remember of it. It depends on what you mean by petty. She was married and had a 15 year old daughter. She had an affair with Roberto Rossellini and abandoned her daughter. She didn’t even see her daughter for almost 10 years. That didn’t sit well with fans. She was in Hollywood jail for a few years but made films in Europe. It wasn’t that long before she was back making Hollywood movies. One thing I didn’t realize until much later in my life was the woman I saw as a broadcaster on my local news was Ingrid Bergman’s daughter, Pia Lindström. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/38 "2017-12-18T01:16:03Z")
> [@caligulathegod](#): > > He defiantly made two very popular “silent” films well into the sound era and rereleased an older film re-edited with narration as late as 1942 plus his five sound films. It was, as they say, a combination of things, but this really wasn’t part of it. If anything, he probably could have kept making silent films if he wanted to. The claims Chaplin was a pro-Communist subversive were unsubstantiated bullshit and would’ve easily collapsed had they been challenged. A younger Chaplin would’ve fought against these charges and won but not an older Chaplin. He was now in his 60s and had more than enough money to keep him financially secure. So, he basically said “Fuck this” and spent the last 25 years of his life on a large estate in Switzerland. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/39 "2017-12-18T15:38:23Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > The claims Chaplin was a pro-Communist subversive were unsubstantiated bullshit and would’ve easily collapsed had they been challenged. A younger Chaplin would’ve fought against these charges and won but not an older Chaplin. He was now in his 60s and had more than enough money to keep him financially secure. So, he basically said “Fuck this” and spent the last 25 years of his life on a large estate in Switzerland. So he was only guilty of having sex with many young girls. One of those things I didn’t realize at the time and recently found out, the actress that played Rob Stark’s wife is Charlie Chaplin’s granddaughter. She doesn’t hide the fact, the name Oona Chaplin is a dead giveaway. I never bothered to look up her name. ---
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I want to say Winona Ryder, but I’m not sure if I have the right actress. The one that had a shoplifting problem. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616.md?page=3)