# Hollywood stars put into "Movie Jail" that you actually agree with **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 16, 2017, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616 "2017-12-16T05:57:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/41 "2017-12-18T15:58:02Z")
Andy Dick. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/42 "2017-12-18T16:04:59Z")
The most famous example is drug addict Robert Downy jr. He completely wiped out his career for several years and even went to prison. Hollywood gave him a second chance after prison. He got a part on Ally McBeal. Relapsed and his character was written off Ally McBeal. That ended his career for awhile. He’s clean now and doing well playing Iron Man. He’s had quite a remarkable comeback. ---
**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/43 "2017-12-18T16:09:54Z")
Lindsay Lohan’s is said to be difficult to work with, showing up late et cetera. Probably part of the reason her career has tanked. I guess I don’t disagree with this. You gotta show up. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/44 "2017-12-18T16:19:32Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > One of those things I didn’t realize at the time and recently found out, the actress that played Rob Stark’s wife is Charlie Chaplin’s granddaughter. She doesn’t hide the fact, the name Oona Chaplin is a dead giveaway. I never bothered to look up her name. She’s named for her grandmother, Charlie Chaplin’s last wife, and Eugene O’Neill’s daughter. (BTW, Eugene O’Neill was really pissed that his daughter married Chaplin.) ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/45 "2017-12-18T16:24:52Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > She’s named for her grandmother, Charlie Chaplin’s last wife, and Eugene O’Neill’s daughter. (BTW, Eugene O’Neill was really pissed that his daughter married Chaplin.) Yes I’m aware. That’s why the name is a dead giveaway. She’s Geraldine Chaplin’s daughter and didn’t shy away from the family legacy by taking her mother’s name professionally not her fathers. ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/46 "2017-12-18T16:25:52Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > Did this happen to Sean Young? A hot career in the 1980s, then she pretty much dropped off the screen in the 1990s. ISTR hearing she got blackballed for some reason or another. > [@Beckdawrek](#): > > She was stalking some actor. I can’t remember who. > [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > IIRC, it was James Woods. She also campaigned quite heavily for the role of Catwoman - to the point of guerrilla tactics like confronting execs in costume. Her behavior has been erratic in other ways, too. [This article](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sean-young-catwoman-a-role-880058) points out that she disrupted the Directors Guild Awards one year. Some can get away with that. Others cannot. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/47 "2017-12-18T17:15:09Z")
> [@StusBlues](#): > > She also campaigned quite heavily for the role of Catwoman - to the point of guerrilla tactics like confronting execs in costume. > > Her behavior has been erratic in other ways, too. [This article](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sean-young-catwoman-a-role-880058) points out that she disrupted the Directors Guild Awards one year. Some can get away with that. Others cannot. I guess it’s impossible to tell who got put in Hollywood jail because they were Weinsteined but I think it’s a pretty good indication if the stories of being difficult were not widespread. Someone being blackballed by a director for not “playing ball” is going to get talked about privately. Like Weinstein to Jackson. Someone truly difficult is going to be difficult in front of the whole crew. It’s hard to keep quiet when every grip and food service worker sees you being an asshole. Or the budget balloons because everyone is getting paid overtime while you are having a tantrum in your trailer. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/48 "2017-12-18T17:48:33Z")
> [@StusBlues](#): > > She also campaigned quite heavily for the role of Catwoman - to the point of guerrilla tactics like confronting execs in costume. > > Her behavior has been erratic in other ways, too. [This article](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sean-young-catwoman-a-role-880058) points out that she disrupted the Directors Guild Awards one year. Some can get away with that. Others cannot. Yes, I remember her turning up on one of the talk shows (I was going to say Letterman but apparently it was Joan Rivers’ show) in her homemade Catwoman outfit and acting weird. And speaking of acting weird and Letterman, \*\*Crispin Glover \*\*likewise went full weirdo during an appearance on Letterman’s show. Mind you, he was already pretty much in movie jail by that point anyway - there was a reason he didn’t appear in _Back to the Future II_. Another rumored-to-be-difficult-to-work-with one: **Linda Fiorentino**. Which is a pity, as I thought she was a talented actress, but unsubstantiated scuttlebutt is that she was a PITA during the making of \*Dogma \*and _Men in Black_. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/49 "2017-12-18T18:22:26Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Kevin Costner developed a taste for absurdly expensive productions that also went over budget. He produced and starred in Dances With Wolves, Waterworld, Message in a Bottle, The Bodyguard, Thirteen Days. Some of these films were successful. I’m not sure they made enough to justify their big budgets. > He didn’t stop working but his role as a producer of big blockbuster films is gone. Bodyguard and Dances made $400 mill worldwide. Dances on a 22mill budget. Waterworld turned a profit. Message in a Bottle did. Postman didn’t and Thirteen Days didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/50 "2017-12-18T18:25:56Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Yes, I remember her turning up on one of the talk shows (I was going to say Letterman but apparently it was Joan Rivers’ show) in her homemade Catwoman outfit and acting weird. > > And speaking of acting weird and Letterman, \*\*Crispin Glover **likewise went full weirdo during an appearance on Letterman’s show. Mind you, he was already pretty much in movie jail by that point anyway -** there was a reason he didn’t appear in _Back to the Future II_. \*\* > > Another rumored-to-be-difficult-to-work-with one: **Linda Fiorentino**. Which is a pity, as I thought she was a talented actress, but unsubstantiated scuttlebutt is that she was a PITA during the making of \*Dogma \*and _Men in Black_. He was asked to reprise his role. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/51 "2017-12-18T18:27:59Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > Bodyguard and Dances made $400 mill worldwide. Dances on a 22mill budget. Waterworld turned a profit. Message in a Bottle did. Postman didn’t and Thirteen Days didn’t. For a while, Costner couldn’t miss. But then people tired of him. I know I did. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/52 "2017-12-18T18:44:23Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > I want to say Winona Ryder, but I’m not sure if I have the right actress. The one that had a shoplifting problem. She plays the mom in the popular Netflix series “Stranger Things”, so she’s made a comeback in that regard. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/53 "2017-12-18T20:08:16Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > She plays the mom in the popular Netflix series “Stranger Things”, so she’s made a comeback in that regard. More than the shoplifting, Winona might have committed the biggest sin for female actors in Hollywood. She aged. Not poorly, mind you, but she still got older. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/54 "2017-12-18T20:20:57Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Yes, I remember her turning up on one of the talk shows (I was going to say Letterman but apparently it was Joan Rivers’ show) in her homemade Catwoman outfit and acting weird. > > And speaking of acting weird and Letterman, \*\*Crispin Glover \*\*likewise went full weirdo during an appearance on Letterman’s show. Mind you, he was already pretty much in movie jail by that point anyway - there was a reason he didn’t appear in _Back to the Future II_. He didn’t appear because they couldn’t agree on money. They ended up hiring a different actor and put face prosthetics on him so that he would resemble Crispin. Crispin sues alleging that they should pay him for using his likeness. The courts decided in Crispin’s favor and the studios could never do shit like that again. You could have actually looked that up. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/55 "2017-12-18T21:42:32Z")
Arguably, Marlon Brando. A hot property early on, and unquestionable a great actor, but he got too big for his britches (literally, later on) and too convinced of his own greatness. I think the turning point was sending Sacheen Littlefeather out to refuse his Oscar for **The Godfather** in 1973. Really rubbed everyone the wrong way, and the next really big-ticket jobs he got were **Superman** and **Apocalypse Now** , which were, let’s face it, roles without a lot of screen time. He popped up in a few more not very good pictures, like **The Freshman** and the insane **The Island of Doctor Moreau**. But Hollywood didn’t really seem to want anything to do with him after the Oscar fiasco, and he in turn withdrew from Hollywood. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616/56 "2017-12-18T23:59:18Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > More than the shoplifting, Winona might have committed the biggest sin for female actors in Hollywood. She aged. Not poorly, mind you, but she still got older. You have a point, especially for the kinds of roles she played in her earlier incarnation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hollywood-stars-put-into-movie-jail-that-you-actually-agree-with/804616.md?page=2)