Just for the numbers, this chart says that the number of Jewish people in Germany at the beginning of 1933, shortly before the nazis took over the country, was 561,000. The whole German population was 66 millions.
ETA: the link shows the decrease of the Jewish population in Germany throughout the whole reign of the nazis.
I wasn’t clear, I am sorry. The tiny percentage of Jews in Germany is striking because of the massive persecution. I personally was surprised that Jews were less than 1 percent of the population of pre- WW2 Germany, it is a fact that I like to share. To me it adds perspective on how insane the Nazi ideology was. I hope I have proved to be somewhat aware of the history of Jews in Europe in this thread; it is not widely known and I was trying to provide some facts that I found useful. I am not trying to be a know-it-all on the subject, I understand there are many people who know the history well through their own family experience.
Ah, I see.
It’s much easier to pick on a small minority than on a large group. The US imprisoned Japanese citizens during WWII, but not Germans or Italians. This had something to do with racism; but it also had something to do with there being so many more of the latter.
Bigotry generally has little to do with logical assessment of danger.
Dude, it is not my job to educate you. Your question is the equivalent of asking for a cite that blacks in Mississippi in 1910 socialized mostly with other blacks.
The Second Polish Republic didn’t even grant Jews citizenship until 1930. Jews were barred from being government employees. Jews weren’t allowed to join the Polish trade unions or political parties. The Catholic Church was constantly calling for a boycott of all Jewish-owned businesses, and by 1936 the government officially endorsed the boycott.
So, yeah, I think it’s fair to say that Polish culture was working very hard to make sure that it was impossible for Jews, religious or otherwise, to be part of the mainstream.
You would probably have to look at memoirs of Holocaust survivors to get a feel for what ordinary daily interactions between Jews and Poles were like, but this doesn’t really seem like a society where close interfaith friendships would be common.
And while I highly doubt it was your intent, implying that it was all the Jews’ fault for “refusing to assimilate” is definitely providing fuel for bigots, as is the implicit claim that Jews assimilating and becoming less obviously Jewish is a good thing.
If you are speaking of Rep. Ilhan Omar, what an absolutely bullshit summation of her position.
In case you care what she actually thinks and don’t want to be a flesh speaker for your recreation anger programs, this is her words about the vote.
"As I recently outlined, accountability for the invasion of northern Syria is essential. Turkey’s incursion and the ensuing fallout is a humanitarian catastrophe—especially for the Kurdish people. But too often our sanctions policies are ill-considered, inhumane and hurt the very people we claim to be helping. That is exactly the case here, where overbroad sanctions on the Turkish economy would hurt civilians rather than political leaders. There are positive policies we could pursue—like banning or limiting weapons sales or creating a buffer zone—but pursuing sanctions that have no chance of being signed into law is the wrong response at the wrong time.
“I also believe accountability for human rights violations—especially ethnic cleansing and genocide—is paramount. But accountability and recognition of genocide should not be used as cudgel in a political fight. It should be done based on academic consensus outside the push and pull of geopolitics. A true acknowledgment of historical crimes against humanity must include both the heinous genocides of the 20th century, along with earlier mass slaughters like the transatlantic slave trade and Native American genocide, which took the lives of hundreds of millions of indigenous people in this country. For this reason, I voted ‘present’ on final passage of H.Res. 296, the resolution Affirming the United States record on the Armenian Genocide.”
Far more nuance than you had indicated, but hey you do you.
I’ll remember this the next time I happen to accident across anything you’ve written in the future.
To be fair, the post you quoted was over 3 years old. I think a lot has changed about Omar since then.
Going back to the original question:
White supremcists know that being associated with the holocaust will lose them support. So even if they secretly want another halocaust, they cannot admit that. Just as Nazis were openly anti-semtic, but hid the holocaust.
I don’t suppose they really think about what would happen if they actually came to power. But they are so far from that, that they have the ‘luxury’ of making bold statements wiothout having to think about how they convince 120,000,000 people to vote for them.
Even at the height of the KKK, many of their supporters were denying the monstrosities of their fellow members.
They Interned Japanese Citizens, and Germans & Italian citizens. This is normal during war, and the facilities were not bad at all.
But we took it further on the West coast and interned Americans of Japanese descent also. Some justified the action as there was violence against them, it was a “protective measure”, and I am sure that made them sleep better at night. 
Still that was a black spot on Americas history.
Yes, I mistyped. I meant ‘American citizens of Japanese descent’, but when I look at the post that clearly isn’t what I actually said. Thanks for catching that.
(Whether “the facilities were not bad at all” seems to be a matter of some dispute; though it’s certainly true if the comparison is to what Germany was doing.)
A lot?
She was getting smeared with pathetic baseless allegations 3 years ago as well as today. She wasn’t a Holocaust Denier then as well as today.
What has changed after the Israel comment was a hard lesson every liberal politician must learn.
Republican’s can be heinously racist, sexist and homophobic and stand by every word in a congressional hearing, but a wiff of criticism for the National State of Israel would bring the hail of Anti-Semitism and shutdown that poor person who may by right or wrong but it doesn’t matter.
Before any of this heinous ill-wind blows my way I want to state categorically there is no cabal of Jewish power-mongers. But there is the very real and very concerning issue of all outside influence of any stripe in our politics be it IBM, Tesla, Exxon, Nike, China, France, Israel. Everyone wants our government to do something for THEM not US.
That sucks.
That we can’t talk about it without the Anti-Semitism spit cleaned from our face is worse.
And this is why bumping 3 year old threads in GD is generally not a great idea.
Not that you bumped it, but going after someone for a 3 year old post is going to close this thread.
Please don’t bump old threads in GD with things just somewhat connected. What you posted should have gone to a new thread instead.
I’m sorry I didn’t close or split it off when I saw the bump. I chose poorly to let it be.