# Holy crap! I just got...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-i-just-got/642666>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 1, 2012, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-i-just-got/642666 "2012-12-01T11:43:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-i-just-got/642666/41 "2012-12-04T21:46:57Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> Once I knew that they were really The Beat, I couldn’t help but focus on how close their name was to The Beatles - like, wow, pretty risky for them to take on a name that might be confused with the Fabs. But, The (English) Beat are a truly great band that sound nothing like The Beatles, so I think it is just my issue 😉

Nah, nobody made any connection between their name and that of the Beatles. Kids of that time in the UK only had a vague idea of who the Beatles were. I know, I was one of them (the kids, that is, not the Beatles).

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-i-just-got/642666/42 "2012-12-04T22:24:11Z")

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> [@Ximenean](#):
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> Kay Jewelers (formerly Chuck’s) [.](http://chrisslater.blogspot.co.uk/2010/03/sneeds-feed-seed.html)

Didn’t the Simpsons have Bee Jewelers? I’ll leave their implied slogan as an exercise for the reader.

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**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-i-just-got/642666/43 "2012-12-05T14:34:48Z")

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Just the other day I realized the series name Highway To Heaven was probably a parody of the song Highway To Hell. :smack:

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-i-just-got/642666/44 "2012-12-05T14:43:34Z")

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> [@furryman](#):
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> Just the other day I realized the series name Highway To Heaven was probably a parody of the song Highway To Hell. :smack:

And Victor French was AC/DC’s original lead singer! 🆒

No, wait, that was Bon Scott. Never mind.

😛

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**Author:** ![Floater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dc4da7/32.png) [@Floater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Floater)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-i-just-got/642666/45 "2012-12-05T14:44:21Z")

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> [@Nunzio\_Tavulari](#):
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> The Beatles was a play on Buddy Holly’s band, The Crickets. To extend the musical pun, be **E** t was replaced with be **A** t.

But they started off as The Silver Beetles, though.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-i-just-got/642666/46 "2012-12-05T14:52:17Z")

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> [@Floater](#):
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> But they started off as The Silver Beetles, though.

No, they started as the “Beatals,” _then_ briefly became “The Silver Beetles,” (with “Silver Beats” and “Silver Beatles” thrown in the middle there somewhere.)and finally settled on “Beatles.”

Ah, [here’s a run-down](http://www.recmusicbeatles.com/public/files/bbs/name.html):

March 1960 - Stu Sutcliffe comes up with “Beatals,” riffing on Buddy Holly and the Crickets

c. May 5 1960 - They become The Silver Beetles

May 14 1960 - (for one day only) billed as The Silver Beats

early July 1960 - change spelling to Silver Beatles

c. Aug 16 1960 - settle on The Beatles

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-i-just-got/642666/47 "2012-12-05T14:56:04Z")

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> [@Aquadementia](#):
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> Oh, I see. And I was thinking it was about prostituting yourself for bling.

That’s what all jewelry commercials are about.

> [@PlainJain](#):
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> What Nunzio said. I was responding to another thread where I was writing it out. I did a quick online search to see if it was “Beatles” or “The Beatles”. I had written it so many times in a short period that it started looking weird to me. And as was really looking at it, it came to me. Mercy Beat and all that.

> [@WordMan](#):
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> Not quite what the OP is looking for, but in the U.S., there was a popular 80’s ska / new wave band called **The English Beat**. In the UK, they go by **The Beat** ; they added “English” because apparently there was another band in the U.S. that went by The Beat.
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> Once I knew that they were really The Beat, I couldn’t help but focus on how close their name was to The Beatles - like, wow, pretty risky for them to take on a name that might be confused with the Fabs. But, The (English) Beat are a truly great band that sound nothing like The Beatles, so I think it is just my issue 😉

> [@Floater](#):
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> But they started off as The Silver Beetles, though.

> [@Nunzio\_Tavulari](#):
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> The Beatles was a play on Buddy Holly’s band, The Crickets.

Just FYI, there’s no need to capitalize the _the_s in these sentences, even if it’s part of the proper name. It’s perfectly correct to refer to the Beatles, the Crickets, the English Beat, etc.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-i-just-got/642666/48 "2012-12-05T15:21:22Z")

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I can forgive the OP for not getting the pun before.  
Long ago, “Beatles” essentially became its own definition. Whetever the boys intended it to mean in the first place, what it means now is… them.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-i-just-got/642666/49 "2012-12-05T15:28:12Z")

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Elvis and the Beatles were two things my mom just couldn’t understand I had no interest in. I was born in '64 and was vaguely aware of hippies and Beatles and Beach Boys but by the time I was old enough to care about music those acts were ancient history. Anything over ten years old was ancient history to me. The 60’s. WWI. Medieval Europe. Jesus. Dinosaurs. All ancient history to me.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-i-just-got/642666/50 "2012-12-05T15:51:22Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> I can forgive the OP for not getting the pun before.  
> Long ago, “Beatles” essentially became its own definition. Whetever the boys intended it to mean in the first place, what it means now is… them.

Here’s what I was looking for: [It means its own thing now](http://www.gocomics.com/frazz/2003/12/09). (Not so much for Fountains of Wayne…)

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**Author:** ![cjepson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@cjepson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cjepson)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-i-just-got/642666/51 "2012-12-05T16:07:48Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> Once I knew that they were really The Beat, I couldn’t help but focus on how close their name was to The Beatles - like, wow, pretty risky for them to take on a name that might be confused with the Fabs. But, The (English) Beat are a truly great band that sound nothing like The Beatles, so I think it is just my issue 😉

There is a story that the [Beau Brummels](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beau_Brummels), one of the first American bands to successfully incorporate the British Invasion sound, deliberately chose their name so that people going through the Beatles section in record stores would come upon their albums immediately following. Disappointingly, one of the members has said that this is a myth.

If I ever formed a group I would be tempted to call it the Beatless just for the hell of it.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-i-just-got/642666/52 "2012-12-05T16:34:44Z")

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> [@cjepson](#):
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> There is a story that the [Beau Brummels](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beau_Brummels), one of the first American bands to successfully incorporate the British Invasion sound, deliberately chose their name so that people going through the Beatles section in record stores would come upon their albums immediately following. Disappointingly, one of the members has said that this is a myth.
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> If I ever formed a group I would be tempted to call it the Beatless just for the hell of it.

When\*\* Liam Gallagher\*\* finally left Oasis/his brother Noel, he formed a band call **Beady Eye** specifically to get sorted next to The Beatles…

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-i-just-got/642666/53 "2012-12-05T16:56:55Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> It took me a long time to notice the double meaning of Bender’s name in _Futurama_.

So…what is it? I know he’s a robot and bender means, I think, gay in British English? Is that part of it? What is the other part?

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-i-just-got/642666/54 "2012-12-05T17:03:27Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> So…what is it? I know he’s a robot and bender means, I think, gay in British English? Is that part of it? What is the other part?

A “bender” is a drinking binge.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-i-just-got/642666/55 "2012-12-05T22:13:14Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> A “bender” is a drinking binge.

Yes, as in “to go on a bender”. It’s rather old fashioned, though, and I can’t remember the last time I heard it seriously used in that sense. Don’t know if it was deliberate on the part of the _Futurama_ creators. One reference says he’s named after a character in _The Breakfast Club_.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-i-just-got/642666/56 "2012-12-05T22:14:51Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Yes, as in “to go on a bender”. It’s rather old fashioned, though, and I can’t remember the last time I heard it seriously used in that sense. Don’t know if it was deliberate on the part of the _Futurama_ creators.

A robot named Bender who is habitually intoxicated? Of course it was deliberate.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-i-just-got/642666/57 "2012-12-05T22:29:36Z")

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But alcohol fuels robots. All robots drink all the time we just only see Bender doing it. There was an episode where he quite drinking and he basically turned into what a human would if they became an alcoholic.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-i-just-got/642666/58 "2012-12-05T22:38:39Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> But alcohol fuels robots. All robots drink all the time we just only see Bender doing it. There was an episode where he quite drinking and he basically turned into what a human would if they became an alcoholic.

1. That was introduced after the character’s first appearance.

2. So what? It doesn’t change the joke.

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**Author:** ![Quercus\_alba](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quercus_alba/32/4061_2.png) [@Quercus\_alba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus_alba)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-i-just-got/642666/59 "2012-12-06T01:27:42Z")

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> [@cjepson](#):
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> I liked Jay Leno’s take on this: “I think the guys in those commercials are hoping for something that begins with F.”

[Good a time as any to repost this…](http://youtu.be/5Ur2er-STls)

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**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-i-just-got/642666/60 "2012-12-06T01:54:45Z")

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> [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> Did a guy on a flaming pie tell you?

It must have been either that, or a cricket who wore black framed glasses.

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