# Holy crap it's Bioshock!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-its-bioshock/415860>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 16, 2007, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-its-bioshock/415860 "2007-08-16T22:11:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jayrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Jayrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayrot)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-its-bioshock/415860/1 "2007-08-16T22:11:37Z")

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Yes yes yes. I’m one of the lucky ones who managed to [del]get lucky[/del] hypnotize my local Toys R Us into breaking the street date and selling Bioshock early. Worked late yesterday and then had a whole bunch of obligations at night, so haven’t had a chance to play it yet.

I’m counting down the hours till I’m off today and then am going to [del]literally[/del] utterly dive into this game. Anyone else just nearly [del]busting a nut[/del] bursting with anticipation as I am?

[Eurogamer.com](http://Eurogamer.com) gave it a 10 out of 10.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-its-bioshock/415860/2 "2007-08-16T22:25:00Z")

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If I knew you in real life, I would totally kill you and steal your copy.

Just sayin’.

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**Author:** ![essell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/34f0e0/32.png) [@essell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/essell)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-its-bioshock/415860/3 "2007-08-16T22:27:37Z")

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You think I should order a copy then ?

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-its-bioshock/415860/4 "2007-08-16T22:43:00Z")

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I’m going to echo **Miller’s** comments and say _you whore, sir_. I want. 😛

Anyone know if the street date-breakage is happening this side of the pond?

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**Author:** ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-its-bioshock/415860/5 "2007-08-16T22:44:25Z")

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Meh, I played the demo on the 360. Didn’t seem like anything special.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-its-bioshock/415860/6 "2007-08-16T22:50:32Z")

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…yeah… ummm… this game doesn’t look all that interesting. Why the hype?

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-its-bioshock/415860/7 "2007-08-16T23:03:53Z")

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As a law abiding citizen I wouldn’t kill you and steal your copy.

I would however incapacitate you and liberate your copy.

Not that I really want to play this game or anything.

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**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-its-bioshock/415860/8 "2007-08-16T23:26:34Z")

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I’ve been waiting for this game for over a year, and it’s a major reason I’m going to buy a 360 as soon as they start getting the 65nm units on shelves. After reading about it for a year, I finally got to play it at Wizard World this past weekend and it was pretty much everything I’ve been hoping for.

It’s a **beautiful** game - the whole unique, idiosyncratic “submerged, decaying Art Deco metropolis” setting is the type of thing that we should be seeing in games but don’t see enough of in an era of fratboy gamers and lowest-common-denominator test-marketed mainstream games. The characters’ interactions and AI were very interesting, as I followed a Big Daddy around just to see what it would do, then recoiled as it encountered a guy harassing a little sister and _slammed him through a wall_. I was also impressed at how “non-FPS’y” they’ve managed to make it - it’s very much more of a first-person RPG a la _Oblivion_ rather than a blast-em-all frag fest.

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-its-bioshock/415860/9 "2007-08-16T23:41:12Z")

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I had not heard of it before, but Playboy gave it 4 bunnies (I think out of 4.)

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-its-bioshock/415860/10 "2007-08-17T00:27:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Push You Down]  
…yeah… ummm… this game doesn’t look all that interesting. Why the hype?  
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Apart from everything else, it’s from the same guys who did _System Shock 2_, one of the greatest computer games ever made, and is actively trying to capture the feel of that game without repeating it. From the 360 demo, it looks like they may have succeeded.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-its-bioshock/415860/11 "2007-08-17T01:35:27Z")

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The demo is mighty tasty. It seems like a little bit of a spooky game, as well; almost like a FPS shooter meets Silent Hill type game.

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**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-its-bioshock/415860/12 "2007-08-17T01:38:24Z")

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IGN gave it a 9.7.

I think they gave Oblivion a 9.4 and Gears also got a 9.4.

That says something. I’m looking forward to it.

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**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-its-bioshock/415860/13 "2007-08-17T01:41:26Z")

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PC Gamer (UK) gave it 95% which is basically the Half-Life 2 watermark. It’s so incredibly, incredibly fucking scary. I was playing an, er, liberated version at a friend’s last night, and a doctor in a medical ward beat me to death with a rake.

As if that wasn’t cool enough, he noted my time of death . . .

Edit: Basically, if nothing else, it’s a Ken Levine project. He’s an absolute genius, a Kubrick of games.

To give you an aproximate SCARY indicator score, Ken Levine is the guy who designed _The Cradle_ level in Thief 3 . . .

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**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-its-bioshock/415860/14 "2007-08-17T01:56:03Z")

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I’m going to wait for the PC version, er, mostly because I don’t have a 360, but also I don’t like shooters on the console even if I did. But I’m really looking forward to it, and I hope it lives up to the hype.

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**Author:** ![panamajack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/47e85d/32.png) [@panamajack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panamajack)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-its-bioshock/415860/15 "2007-08-17T07:10:54Z")

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To **Jayrot** : I hate you, you … _insect_.

Bioshock is part of the legacy of Looking Glass Studios, where the original _System Shock_ (one of the best games ever) was made, as well as _Thief_. _Deus Ex_ is in that line as well, and there’s been no indication that this will fail to fit in that company. At the very least, there hasn’t been anything similar expected to come out.

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**Author:** ![TheTyrant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thetyrant/32/19111_2.png) [@TheTyrant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTyrant)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-its-bioshock/415860/16 "2007-08-17T11:45:32Z")

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Like **DeadlyAccurate** I’m waiting for the PC version as well. (For exactly the same reasons.) Quite honestly, I’m still curious to see if the PC version hits the shelves on the launch date, considering that the PC demo wasn’t ready on the 13th according to the Cult of Rapture website.

No demo 8 days before launch? Apparently it’s in the last stages of “testing and approval” and Irrational wanted to be certain it’d run on a wide variety of computers.

Well, my fingers are crossed. Really looking forward to it.

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**Author:** ![Jayrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Jayrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayrot)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-its-bioshock/415860/17 "2007-08-17T15:44:07Z")

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Played about 4 hours last night. I’ll tell you now that this game is excellent. I have a similar feeling about this game like when Half-Life 2 was released. i.e. OMG IT LIVES UP TO THE HYPE. So often as gamers, particularly gamers who follow previews and upcoming releases, we’re constantly being disappointed (well at least I am). Even some of my favorite games from the last couple years, really good games, in some way fell short of expectation and what is [del]promised[/del] suggested to us. This feeling of disappointment is pretty much directly proportional to the amount of hype and anticipation leading up to a game’s release. So it’s refreshing to know that every once in a while there is a game that actually delivers (here are my fingers crossed for Mass Effect).

I certainly won’t spoil anything, but I will tell you that the game jumps right in. For me at least, it’s fairly refreshing to see a game that gives you access to some pretty sweet weapons and powers (plasmids) only a couple minutes into the gameplay. Then the purchasing/upgrade system just goes up and up from there.

I’m happy to answer questions if you might have them, but you should probably _just play it_.  
You will love this game.

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**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-its-bioshock/415860/18 "2007-08-17T15:46:27Z")

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[QUOTE=TheTyrant]  
Like **DeadlyAccurate** I’m waiting for the PC version as well. (For exactly the same reasons.) Quite honestly, I’m still curious to see if the PC version hits the shelves on the launch date, considering that the PC demo wasn’t ready on the 13th according to the Cult of Rapture website.

No demo 8 days before launch? Apparently it’s in the last stages of “testing and approval” and Irrational wanted to be certain it’d run on a wide variety of computers.

Well, my fingers are crossed. Really looking forward to it.  
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The PC version is available through Steam, you cna preload now and play on the 21st. So retail versions of the game for PC should be available on the 21st-22nd.

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**Author:** ![Jayrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Jayrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayrot)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-its-bioshock/415860/19 "2007-08-17T15:50:16Z")

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Oh, and PC users. If you have DX10 hardware, you’ll be handsomely rewarded. This game is beautiful on the 360 using DX9. I can only imagine how much better it is with all the bells and whistles of DX10. When I finally upgrade to DX10 on my pc gaming rig, this will probably be the first game I buy/play. OK, maybe Crysis.

On the other hand, what makes this game so damn beautiful and awesome is the much-discussed atmosphere. The steampunky Art Deco underwater environ works incredibly well, much like Half-Life 2’s dystopian, generic, european city atmosphere. Again, like HL2, I’m reasonably convinced you could crank this game down to 800x600 with all the effects turned down, and still be awestruck by the graphics. Good times!

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**Author:** ![Parthol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dec6dc/32.png) [@Parthol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Parthol)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-its-bioshock/415860/20 "2007-08-17T16:03:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Gukumatz]  
Edit: Basically, if nothing else, it’s a Ken Levine project. He’s an absolute genius, a Kubrick of games.

To give you an aproximate SCARY indicator score, Ken Levine is the guy who designed _The Cradle_ level in Thief 3 . . .  
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You’re close. I agree that Ken Levine _is_ a genius, and he’s the main mind behind BioShock. But he had nothing to do with Thief 3.

“The Cradle” in that game was designed by Jordan Thomas, who _also_ worked on BioShock.

-P

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