# Holy crap! No more Dio? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 15, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-no-more-dio/596416 "2011-09-15T18:01:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-no-more-dio/596416/241 "2011-09-16T05:38:26Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > So, I was wondering, if a person gets banned, are they allowed to come back as another name? Not to continue trolling or whatever they were banned for, but like they learned their lesson, yada yada yada, and wants to come back and made a new name for himself. Or will he be banned if any mods find out its the same old guy? Comming back as a sock (a sock puppet - pretending to be someone else) is not allowed. Not sure if the mods would consider reinstating someone but you’d have to approach them directly, not try to sneak in the back door. ---
**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-no-more-dio/596416/242 "2011-09-16T05:40:46Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > Why not just restrict his posting to The Pit? Seems like 95% of the bannable posts would have been fine there. Because he supposedly made valuable contributions to GD? Because we don’t restrict posters like that? Only Dio could generate a thread this long and growing after being banned. Wow. ---
**Author:** ![ataraxy22](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ataraxy22/32/307_2.png) [@ataraxy22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ataraxy22)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-no-more-dio/596416/243 "2011-09-16T05:41:33Z")
Great Debates, in particular, won’t be as interesting for me to read anymore. There are really only a handful of stalwarts you can always count on to be slugging it out in there, and he was one. If the complaint is that he posted too much and just overwhelmed everyone else, why not just put a posts per day quota on certain fora? That would certainly result in a higher signal-to-noise ratio, since fewer people would waste a post with a throwaway comment. ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-no-more-dio/596416/244 "2011-09-16T05:43:21Z")
> [@Crown\_Prince\_of\_Irony](#): > > Wow, I just looked at his profile, and he averaged just shy of 18 posts per day for _9 years_! That’s at least a post per every hour he was awake - if I was on the Dope that often, and that consistently, my wife would have strangled me by now. > > I really do hope Dio finds something to fill whatever void the banning leaves. This is what always fascinated me. He truly lived out here, even though he claimed to have a wife and three kids, and let’s not forget a job. How was that possible? What kind of job would permit this kind of time on the web? And if he didn’t do it at work but saved it for home, what kind of parent/spouse could he be? Staring at a screen every chance you had doesn’t leave time for much else. I don’t know what is true or not true of his personal life, but I have a hard time believing he is a happy person or a very good husband/father. It strikes me that he is a single guy, possibly divorced, and spends the time out here as a substitute for human companionship. I have one child. A wife. I’m posting at 1:40 because it’s a time I have available. I can’t sleep. My child is asleep, so I have a few minutes. When she wakes, I’m done for the night. If he has other boards he is on, good god, what kind of external life is possible? ---
**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-no-more-dio/596416/245 "2011-09-16T05:44:22Z")
> [@Invisible\_Chimp](#): > > Only Dio could generate a thread this long and growing after being banned. Wow. My memory sucks. I just remembered the thread when Otto got banned. That was pretty big. It got him reinstated, but he didn’t come back anyway. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-no-more-dio/596416/246 "2011-09-16T05:45:52Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > Why not just restrict his posting to The Pit? Seems like 95% of the bannable posts would have been fine there. The majority of reactions here seem to be saying “Wow, that’s terrible. Sure, he deserved it, and then some, but still just terrible..” That way he could have continued posting without running afoul of the rules. No thanks. The Pit is pretty much the only place I saw **Dio** and even that was too often. He was simply incapable of seeing any opinion other than his own and it was irritating even when I agreed with him. ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-no-more-dio/596416/247 "2011-09-16T05:45:55Z")
> [@Invisible\_Chimp](#): > > Because he supposedly made valuable contributions to GD? Because we don’t restrict posters like that? > > Only Dio could generate a thread this long and growing after being banned. Wow. We don’t, but we could. Thus my question. Some posters have a very hard time not taking debate to a personal level. I see often times though they are also posters who have a lot to say and keep the board interesting if not at times frustrating. For them, I say, there should be a new level of ban; banned to The Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-no-more-dio/596416/248 "2011-09-16T05:47:56Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > No thanks. The Pit is pretty much the only place I saw **Dio** and even that was too often. He was simply incapable of seeing any opinion other than his own and it was irritating even when I agreed with him. Perhaps, but he was banned for personal insults outside the Pit, not for frustrating people with his opinions or refusal to see theirs. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-no-more-dio/596416/249 "2011-09-16T05:49:24Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > Perhaps, but he was banned for personal insults outside the Pit, not for frustrating people with his opinions or refusal to see theirs. Yeah, I know, but I wouldn’t want him to be compressing all those posts into just one area! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-no-more-dio/596416/250 "2011-09-16T05:53:18Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > No thanks. The Pit is pretty much the only place I saw **Dio** and even that was too often. He was simply incapable of seeing any opinion other than his own and it was irritating even when I agreed with him. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-no-more-dio/596416/251 "2011-09-16T05:53:59Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > If he has other boards he is on, good god, what kind of external life is possible? What?! He spends time on other boards as well? Good lord, just how much of his life is spent online? I’ll agree that I always suspected he had unhappy real life and if that is true, I’m even more convinced of it. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-no-more-dio/596416/252 "2011-09-16T05:55:20Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > We don’t, but we could. Thus my question. > > Some posters have a very hard time not taking debate to a personal level. I see often times though they are also posters who have a lot to say and keep the board interesting if not at times frustrating. For them, I say, there should be a new level of ban; banned to The Pit. So the adminisration should have to write special code just for Dio to restrict him to the pit? What about a poster who’s very sensitive? Should the board write a script so no one can say anything bad about them? You follow the rules or you leave, either by choice or other means. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-no-more-dio/596416/253 "2011-09-16T05:55:47Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > :eek: 😕 > [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > What?! > > He spends time on other boards as well? > > Good lord, just how much of his life is spent online? > > I’ll agree that I always suspected he had unhappy real life and if that is true, I’m even more convinced of it. Yes, I had a peek at the Gir - er, that other board and saw that he is posting away over there. Dunno if he posts as much there as here tho. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-no-more-dio/596416/254 "2011-09-16T05:58:24Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > 😕 Do you believe you are capable of seeing any opinion other than your own? Are you any less rigid in your ideology than **Dio**? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-no-more-dio/596416/255 "2011-09-16T06:00:26Z")
Dio being banned is predictable and I can’t really get upset about it. As others have pointed out, his inability to admit error even when he was obviously wrong, and his penchant for ‘shading the facts’ to suit his claims means that even when he posted with certainty on topics that he was generally correct about, like religion, his posts were suspect. Too bad, all in all, but he did have his chances and this at least will be the end of the Dio Show. > [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Similarly, I’ve had more than a few people treat me like I’m an expert on Israel, the Middle East, or Islam, and while I know more than most on the dope, I think it would be ridiculous to call me an expert. Unfortunately it’s a weird effect that’s seen too often on the Dope; people who don’t know anything, even the very basic prerequisite background knowledge for a subject, still hold forth on it with maximum vehemence. When it comes to issues of the Middle East, most people don’t know the difference between Hamas, Hama, and Haniyah, but that won’t stop 'em from holding a position and not backing down despite factual refutations. Tamerlane probably qualifies as an expert, I think… at least his knowledge is generally encyclopedic and surpasses most other posters. It’d be nice to see threads populated by people who have at least baseline factual awareness, and I’d also like a pony. ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-no-more-dio/596416/256 "2011-09-16T06:05:02Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > So the adminisration should have to write special code just for Dio to restrict him to the pit? What about a poster who’s very sensitive? Should the board write a script so no one can say anything bad about them? > > You follow the rules or you leave, either by choice or other means. I’m not really lobbying for the change but it isn’t special code or a scripting effort it is a level of access just like you have, just like I have, just like BANNED posters have, and one could be created that allows only posting in the Pit. More so I was just commenting that if they get this many responses indicating “wow, thats really a shame” (despite many celebrating, too) it would seem they had contributed something of value. If they just couldn’t get a handle on the personal insults and we have a board where personal insults are the rule it seems like a perfect fit, in theory. In practice such a level would create complications, the person would have to be able to at least post on ATMB too, and as noted upthread, a prolific poster would quickly overflow the board if all their posts were limited to that one area. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-no-more-dio/596416/257 "2011-09-16T06:06:54Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Do you believe you are capable of seeing any opinion other than your own? Are you any less rigid in your ideology than **Dio**? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-no-more-dio/596416/258 "2011-09-16T06:19:18Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > Why not just restrict his posting to The Pit? Jesus Christ, man, what did I ever do to you to deserve that? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-no-more-dio/596416/259 "2011-09-16T06:20:45Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Do you believe you are capable of seeing any opinion other than your own? Are you any less rigid in your ideology than **Dio**? [Moderating] This is NOT the place for this sort of thing. Drop it or take it to the Pit, but don’t continue this here. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-no-more-dio/596416/260 "2011-09-16T06:26:34Z")
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