# Holy Crap! S&W introduces a .460 revolver.

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 24, 2014, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-s-w-introduces-a-460-revolver/679641 "2014-01-24T19:47:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-s-w-introduces-a-460-revolver/679641/1 "2014-01-24T19:47:11Z")

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[A Backpack Cannon.](http://kitup.military.com/2014/01/smith-wesson-unveils-backpack.html)

$1200, but you can also fire .45 Long Colt and .454 Casull with it. Just the thing for those pesky raccoons.

I WANT ONE!!!

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-s-w-introduces-a-460-revolver/679641/2 "2014-01-24T20:15:28Z")

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My personal rule of thumb is that no revolver should have a cylinder longer than its barrel.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-s-w-introduces-a-460-revolver/679641/3 "2014-01-24T20:50:42Z")

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Just ballparking it from the photo, but the barrel seems to be about 25% longer than the cylinder.

Although I’ll admit you have a point there. The barrel-flip on that sucker must be fierce.

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**Author:** ![BMax](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bmax/32/4267_2.png) [@BMax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMax)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-s-w-introduces-a-460-revolver/679641/4 "2014-01-24T21:05:28Z")

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This is why you don’t pee with your 5 year old son. Some day the guy has a F-350, a REALLY LOUD Harley, and is still ashamed of his penis. And he’s buying this hand-cannon.  
Come on, dude. You were only 5 years old.

Seriously though, you might want that gun if you’re backpacking in grizzly country with bloody meat in your tent.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-s-w-introduces-a-460-revolver/679641/5 "2014-01-24T21:09:59Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Just ballparking it from the photo, but the barrel seems to be about 25% longer than the cylinder.
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> Although I’ll admit you have a point there. The barrel-flip on that sucker must be fierce.

I watched the video. Muzzle flip wasn’t that much though it was sharp. The .454 looked like more of a handful.

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**Author:** ![buckgully](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb9ed0/32.png) [@buckgully](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buckgully)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-s-w-introduces-a-460-revolver/679641/6 "2014-01-24T21:13:11Z")

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> [@BMax](#):
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> Seriously though, you might want that gun if you’re backpacking in grizzly country with bloody meat in your tent.

Or you’re an 8 foot tall bright red demon with a giant stone right hand, hunting other supernatural creatures for a secret government agency.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-s-w-introduces-a-460-revolver/679641/7 "2014-01-24T21:19:06Z")

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Smith just announced they’ll stop selling in California because of microstamping. Great.

But yeah, I’d want one of those .460s too.

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**Author:** ![yoyodyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a9a28c/32.png) [@yoyodyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yoyodyne)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-s-w-introduces-a-460-revolver/679641/8 "2014-01-24T21:29:26Z")

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They’ve had [.460s](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_460) for a long time. [.500s](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_500) too.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-s-w-introduces-a-460-revolver/679641/9 "2014-01-24T21:29:41Z")

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But only semiautos. They’ll still sell revolvers.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-s-w-introduces-a-460-revolver/679641/10 "2014-01-24T23:40:45Z")

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> [@yoyodyne](#):
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> They’ve had [.460s](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_460) for a long time. [.500s](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_500) too.

I was going to say that. Since 2005. The .460 is cooler than .500 because it can shoot so much: .460 S&W, .454 Casull, .45 (Long) Colt, .45 Schofield, and I think one more (different Schofield loading too?). LC probably being the most economical.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-s-w-introduces-a-460-revolver/679641/11 "2014-01-24T23:45:00Z")

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[http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category4\_750001\_750051\_775663\_-1\_775655\_757896\_image](http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category4_750001_750051_775663_-1_775655_757896_image)

Shows .460 magnums with 10", 12" and 14" barrels, but obviously not the same gun.

The article linked above claims they’re a pleasure to shoot. Must weigh a fuckload then, which makes them a lot less of a ‘backpack’ weapon.

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-s-w-introduces-a-460-revolver/679641/12 "2014-01-25T00:43:14Z")

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It looks like the handgun in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Does it come with cartoon ammo also?

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-s-w-introduces-a-460-revolver/679641/13 "2014-01-25T00:48:05Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> [A Backpack Cannon.](http://kitup.military.com/2014/01/smith-wesson-unveils-backpack.html)
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> $1200, but you can also fire .45 Long Colt and .454 Casull with it. Just the thing for those pesky raccoons.
> 
> I WANT ONE!!!

I don’t.

I like guns. I like to shoot guns. I like big guns because they are big. Heck, I wouldn’t even let the price tag be the deal breaker. But I also need a bit of aesthetics to go along with my guns. I love my [.45 Long Colt Ruger Vaquero birds head revolver](http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/vaquero_with_birds_head_grip-tfb.jpg) (for example) but sorry, that S&W is butt fugly.

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-s-w-introduces-a-460-revolver/679641/14 "2014-01-25T00:50:10Z")

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Back in grad school, I worked at a sporting goods store, and they had one of those S&W .500 revolvers.

That thing must have weighed 4 lbs, and had a bore the size of my middle finger. It was totally and completely absurd, yet people would come in every freaking day and want to check it out, usually in an almost fetishistic way.

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**Author:** ![yoyodyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a9a28c/32.png) [@yoyodyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yoyodyne)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-s-w-introduces-a-460-revolver/679641/15 "2014-01-25T00:53:11Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> [http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category4\_750001\_750051\_775663\_-1\_775655\_757896\_image](http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category4_750001_750051_775663_-1_775655_757896_image)
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> Shows .460 magnums with 10", 12" and 14" barrels, but obviously not the same gun.
> 
> The article linked above claims they’re a pleasure to shoot. Must weigh a fuckload then, which makes them a lot less of a ‘backpack’ weapon.

There’s a [5" .460](http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_765656_-1_757771_757767_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y) and [4" .500](http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_764948_-1_757771_757767_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y) too.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-s-w-introduces-a-460-revolver/679641/16 "2014-01-25T01:11:37Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> Back in grad school, I worked at a sporting goods store, and they had one of those S&W .500 revolvers.
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> That thing must have weighed 4 lbs, and had a bore the size of my middle finger. It was totally and completely absurd, yet people would come in every freaking day and want to check it out, usually in an almost fetishistic way.

It’s way oversized for shooting people (really the .44 Magnum is too), but was intended to be a hunting revolver. If you were suddenly attacked a grizzly or wanted to put a wounded bison out of its misery, it’s a handy gun. I’ve shot it and it’s a credible firearm- the main thing is just getting used to the tremendous explosion happening four inches in front of your knuckles. Shooting a sawed-off pistol grip 12-gauge must be like that.

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-s-w-introduces-a-460-revolver/679641/17 "2014-01-25T01:23:43Z")

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> [@White SIFL](#):
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> I don’t.
> 
> I like guns. I like to shoot guns. I like big guns because they are big. Heck, I wouldn’t even let the price tag be the deal breaker. But I also need a bit of aesthetics to go along with my guns. I love my [.45 Long Colt Ruger Vaquero birds head revolver](http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/vaquero_with_birds_head_grip-tfb.jpg) (for example) but sorry, that S&W is butt fugly.

Nice, especially the pistol grip.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-s-w-introduces-a-460-revolver/679641/18 "2014-01-25T02:17:03Z")

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> [@yoyodyne](#):
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> There’s a [5" .460](http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_765656_-1_757771_757767_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y) and [4" .500](http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_764948_-1_757771_757767_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y) too.

My .357 with a 6" barrel weighs 2 pounds 8 oz.

The .460 5" barrel weighs 3 pounds, 12.9 ounces, or 50% more.

All I can think of is the scene in _The Three Amigos_ where Ned Nederlander shoots the huge pistol.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-s-w-introduces-a-460-revolver/679641/19 "2014-01-25T04:45:32Z")

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It would make a nice replacement for what I usually carried in bear country, which was a Mossberg 500.

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**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-s-w-introduces-a-460-revolver/679641/20 "2014-01-25T05:51:06Z")

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I couldn’t imagine lugging that brick with me while backpacking.

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