# Holy crap, that guy's unfunny - but everyone else loves him!

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 18, 2008, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-that-guys-unfunny-but-everyone-else-loves-him/477659 "2008-12-18T00:20:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-that-guys-unfunny-but-everyone-else-loves-him/477659/141 "2008-12-19T18:56:00Z")

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> [@Pazu](#):
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> Did I miss a mention of Andrew Dice Clay?

I wanted to mention him, but couldn’t remember his name. Isn’t he a total has-been? But yes, I never understood remotely what was funny about him. What a weirdo.

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**Author:** ![ThePylon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@ThePylon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThePylon)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-that-guys-unfunny-but-everyone-else-loves-him/477659/142 "2008-12-19T19:29:44Z")

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> [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](#):
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> I think that was the true measure of how magical _Newsradio_ was. Andy Dick _and_ Joe Rogan, and the show was **still funny**! I mean, how could that even _be_?!

Phil Hartman. (btw he does not belong in this thread, just answering).

ETA: I just saw your username, so I’m preaching to the converted I see…

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**Author:** ![Cagey\_Drifter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@Cagey\_Drifter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cagey_Drifter)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-that-guys-unfunny-but-everyone-else-loves-him/477659/143 "2008-12-19T19:30:40Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> You really thought people just didn’t grasp that?

Well, someone upthread basically just accused her of just wanting to shock people, which i found somewhat reductionist.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-that-guys-unfunny-but-everyone-else-loves-him/477659/144 "2008-12-19T19:33:23Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> It’s been years, but [Kevin Meaney](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbgx8AKJ6M0) still tops my list.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Can’t watch the video right now: is that the guy who did that “I don’t care! I don’t care” song? Oh, Jebus, did I ever want to jarsquat that guy.

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-that-guys-unfunny-but-everyone-else-loves-him/477659/145 "2008-12-19T19:40:19Z")

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I’m not sure which, if any, section of the population appreciates him. But I had the misfortune of hearing[Andrew Dice Clay](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Dice_Clay) on one of the Sirius radio channels the other day. He is BY FAR the least funny comedian I have EVER heard (that includes Open-Mic nights, Larry the Cable Guy, and the kid who thought he was funny in my English class at school).

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-that-guys-unfunny-but-everyone-else-loves-him/477659/146 "2008-12-19T19:44:56Z")

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> [@griffin1977](#):
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> I’m not sure which, if any, section of the population appreciates him. But I had the misfortune of hearing[Andrew Dice Clay](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Dice_Clay)

I hate that fuckin’ asshole. Not funny. Not cool. Not a nice guy.

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**Author:** ![Cagey\_Drifter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@Cagey\_Drifter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cagey_Drifter)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-that-guys-unfunny-but-everyone-else-loves-him/477659/147 "2008-12-19T19:46:36Z")

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> [@Kalhoun](#):
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> I hate that fuckin’ asshole. Not funny. Not cool. Not a nice guy.

maybe that’s his schtick.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-that-guys-unfunny-but-everyone-else-loves-him/477659/148 "2008-12-19T19:56:03Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> It’s been years, but [Kevin Meaney](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbgx8AKJ6M0) still tops my list.

Oh, _ **THAT’S NOT RIGHT** _!

Wasn’t he the dumbass who was arrested going through an airport security checkpoint when he got in a fight with a National Guardsman?

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-that-guys-unfunny-but-everyone-else-loves-him/477659/149 "2008-12-19T20:01:45Z")

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> [@Cagey\_Drifter](#):
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> I’m going to defend Sarah Silverman here. I think she’s hysterically funny. She plays a character, and if you don’t ‘get’ her character, you won’t like her comedy. Her character is endlessly naive, has a very rudimentary understanding of the world, and is very child-like (or perhaps childish). She entertains overblown fantasies of how steeling her will and committing to ridiculous causes will gain her respect and change the world. She doesn’t understand the power of her words and often says things that are horribly politically incorrect, but she says them the way a child who doesn’t understand politics or controversy would say them. She is easily manipulated emotionally, and is somewhat insecure but attempts to overcome this by doing things she thinks are positive and which make her seem cool, but which usually reflect naivete more than anything.

You owe the children of the world an apology. Her character is nothing, in both sense of the word.

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**Author:** ![Pazu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pazu/32/15522_2.png) [@Pazu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pazu)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-that-guys-unfunny-but-everyone-else-loves-him/477659/150 "2008-12-19T20:03:57Z")

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> [@Cagey\_Drifter](#):
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> maybe that’s his schtick.

Still doesn’t make him funny.

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**Author:** ![gang\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f07891/32.png) [@gang\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gang_green)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-that-guys-unfunny-but-everyone-else-loves-him/477659/151 "2008-12-19T20:57:12Z")

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Jim Carrey. Rubber faced mugging isn’t funny.

Chris Farley. No matter how much he wanted to be John Belushi, he couldn’t do it.

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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-that-guys-unfunny-but-everyone-else-loves-him/477659/152 "2008-12-19T21:17:45Z")

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> [@singular1](#):
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> Wow, really? You find that burly guy with a big square head _effeminate_?!? I get the dress and make-up, but he couldn’t pass for a female at a Indigo Girls/Melissa Etheridge concert. I think you may want to revisit the concept of effeminate.

I said I couldn’t remember the name of an effeminate British comedian, and somebody figured out who I was talking about within ten minutes on the first guess, so…

It’s not about whether he’s burly or what shape his head is. It’s about his voice and mannerisms. I mean, really. Are you being intentionally obtuse? A crossdresser isn’t effeminate? Like, wouldn’t that be an insult to him?

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-that-guys-unfunny-but-everyone-else-loves-him/477659/153 "2008-12-19T21:25:44Z")

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Izzard is a big burly man, but I will say he looks _fabulous_ in makeup.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-that-guys-unfunny-but-everyone-else-loves-him/477659/154 "2008-12-19T21:35:12Z")

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> [@neutron\_star](#):
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> It’s not about whether he’s burly or what shape his head is. It’s about his voice and mannerisms. I mean, really. Are you being intentionally obtuse? A crossdresser isn’t effeminate? Like, wouldn’t that be an insult to him?

Well, that’s just it, though: his voice and mannerisms aren’t particularly effeminate. Other than the clothes and the makeup, there’s nothing about him that comes across as particularly girly.

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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-that-guys-unfunny-but-everyone-else-loves-him/477659/155 "2008-12-19T21:39:53Z")

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Huh. Well then I could be misremembering, maybe. I only saw him once a while back and was very unimpressed. People always quoting painfully unfunny lines serve to keep me from ever going back and trying to watch him again.

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**Author:** ![SirRay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@SirRay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SirRay)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-that-guys-unfunny-but-everyone-else-loves-him/477659/156 "2008-12-19T21:54:32Z")

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Just a note on Eddie Izzard: I (allegedly) saw some clips of Eddie’s Izzards latest show Stripped on YouTube (allegedly), and he seemed to have dropped the Transvestite motif, dressing in ‘normal’ male clothes (the video was a bit murky though, and the clips dang near encompassed the entire routine - probably removed from YouTube by now - allegedly).

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-that-guys-unfunny-but-everyone-else-loves-him/477659/157 "2008-12-19T22:36:53Z")

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> [@neutron\_star](#):
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> Huh. Well then I could be misremembering, maybe. I only saw him once a while back and was very unimpressed. People always quoting painfully unfunny lines serve to keep me from ever going back and trying to watch him again.

Did you ever see the commercials for **The Riches** on FX (or even an episode?). He didn’t look the least effeminate. I think that’s why some people are protesting that description. Sure, when he’s wearing make-up and a dress, he looks quite…stunning…but when he’s acting or not dressed up, he’s not the least effeminate.

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-that-guys-unfunny-but-everyone-else-loves-him/477659/158 "2008-12-19T22:40:11Z")

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I actually have tried some Seinfield, and I just couldn’t care. I don’t know people like those characters,and I wouldn’t want to, and watching those idiots on tv for an extended period didn’t seem at all appealing.

Most stuff on Adult Swim (except for Robot Chicken and Venture Brothers) is crap that I’ve tried.

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-that-guys-unfunny-but-everyone-else-loves-him/477659/159 "2008-12-19T23:36:50Z")

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> [@ThePylon](#):
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> Phil Hartman. (btw he does not belong in this thread, just answering).  
> ETA: I just saw your username, so I’m preaching to the converted I see…

Funny thing is, I didn’t particularly like him in Newsradio. I’m obviously a fan, but I just didn’t find Bill McNeil especially funny or creative.

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**Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-crap-that-guys-unfunny-but-everyone-else-loves-him/477659/160 "2008-12-20T02:16:24Z")

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**Chris Farley** - I just don’t get the love for this guy. Fat, stupid, and screamy does not equal funny.  
**Gilbert Godfrey** - Nothing this guy has ever said or done stuck me as anything other than incredibly annoying. Automatic channel changer.  
**Carrot Top** - I seriously think the only reason this guy is famous is because he’s so annoying.  
**Adam Sandler** - Ok, I did laugh at a couple of his movies (The Wedding Singer and Happy Gilmore, mostly to see him get beat up by Bob Barker). But nothing else he’s done comes close to even chuckle worthy.  
**Ray Romano** - I don’t love Raymond, and I’m certainly included in the definition of “everybody”. Seriously, on his show he comes across as a whiny loser. Ray’s mom and dad come across as watered down versions of Al and Peggy Bundy, his wife has the straight, responsible person role, and his brother (I forget the actor’s name) is the only remotely funny person on the show.  
**Jack Black** - see Chris Farley.  
**Jeff Foxworthy** - Everyone in my family thinks the Blue Collar Comedy Tour is the funniest thing they’ve ever seen. I can’t stand any of them except the fat guy that chain smokes (Ron White?). The crowning moment came when I saw Jeff doing the “it was in the last place I looked” “Well of course it was! Why would you keep looking…” joke, which I would have rolled my eyes at in second grade. Are you that hard up for material that you’d do a joke Bob Hope has probably done 50 years ago (and it was probably lame then too)?  
**Larry the Cable Guy** - Almost as bad Jeff Foxworthy, but the annoying catchphrases put him on pretty much the same level.

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