# Holy Grail **URL:** \ **Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\ **Created:** [July 27, 2016, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-grail/761012 "2016-07-27T08:55:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-grail/761012/21 "2016-07-27T18:38:58Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Jesus would fill it at the kitchen tap and still be drinking wine out of it. šŸ˜‰ Damn thatā€™s a good trick, especially if you can change the varietals and wine style on the fly so that the kitchen tap delivers precisely the right pairing for each course! Combine oenological expertise with the ability to work miracles, and youā€™ve got yourself a sommelier who can freelance anywhere and name his own price! > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > This trinity thing is confusing. Not really. His dad is dead, but it is written that at Halloween he completes the trinity by coming around as a ghost and drinking Jesusā€™s Macallan. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-grail/761012/22 "2016-07-27T18:51:38Z")
The Holy Grail is the Holy Grail of Holy Grails. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-grail/761012/23 "2016-07-27T18:58:52Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > Again with those old debunked accusationsā€¦ Look ā€¦ I understand your fondness for Gandalf ā€¦ but there is another side to the story. It was just a small misunderstanding that lead to a minor industrial accident and if everyone had stayed calm and NOT FREAKED OUT ā€¦ then maybe the whole island of NĆŗmeror wouldnā€™t have sank. So I just donā€™t see how we can objectively say this is all Sauronā€™s fault. Maybe if everyone had just listened and obeyed then things wouldnā€™t have turned out so badly. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-grail/761012/24 "2016-07-27T19:17:19Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Damn thatā€™s a good trick, especially if you can change the varietals and wine style on the fly so that the kitchen tap delivers precisely the right pairing for each course! Combine oenological expertise with the ability to work miracles, and youā€™ve got yourself a sommelier who can freelance anywhere and name his own price! Or a serial killer. šŸ˜ƒ > **[Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - 2010-05-04](https://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=1871)** > > Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - 2010-05-04 > **[Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - 2005-03-10](https://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=180)** > > Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - 2005-03-10 ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-grail/761012/25 "2016-07-27T22:53:26Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > Look ā€¦ I understand your fondness for Gandalf ā€¦ but there is another side to the story. > > It was just a small misunderstanding that lead to a minor industrial accident and if everyone had stayed calm and NOT FREAKED OUT ā€¦ then maybe the whole island of NĆŗmeror wouldnā€™t have sank. So I just donā€™t see how we can objectively say this is all Sauronā€™s fault. Maybe if everyone had just listened and obeyed then things wouldnā€™t have turned out so badly. He just wanted to turn water into wine? ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-grail/761012/26 "2016-07-28T01:48:42Z")
Yeah ā€¦ thatā€™s the ticket ā€¦ and a cure for childhood cancer too ā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![John\_W.Kennedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_w.kennedy/32/1031_2.png) [@John\_W.Kennedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_W.Kennedy)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-grail/761012/27 "2016-07-28T03:08:17Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > How odd ā€¦ > > In the OPā€™s cite ā€œThe Gospels says that Jesus celebrated the Easter rite in a decorated room, furniture with divans _(Mark 14, 15)._ā€ > > EASTER ?!? ā€¦ Jesus wasnā€™t quite dead yet ā€¦ I think weā€™re going to need a more credible citation for this claim ā€¦ one that knows the difference between Passover and Easter. Bad translation, Iā€™m sure. In most (Christian) languages, the word for ā€œEasterā€ is the same as the word for ā€œPassoverā€. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-grail/761012/28 "2016-07-28T06:44:15Z")
> [@John\_W.Kennedy](#): > > Bad translation, Iā€™m sure. In most (Christian) languages, the word for ā€œEasterā€ is the same as the word for ā€œPassoverā€. Yes, in Spanish and Valenciano theyā€™re both called _Pascua_, a name which in fact refers to multiple High Holidays. Aslo one of those things nobody mentions in ESL class (religion didnā€™t get mentioned at all, in my over 12 years of taking lessons). A piece of information for anybody looking at pictures of the Valencia cup and going ā€œoh, no way!ā€: the cup is not whatā€™s supposed to be the Grail, but only the top bowl and the dish which now acts as the foot. The jeweled decorations are a known add-on, Iā€™m just feeling lazy about looking up which king of Aragon had them added. And most of the stuff Cecil mentions in his article has never been part of the local stories about the bowl-and-dish set, itā€™s supposed to be the one Jesus used in the Last Supper but no miraculous properties or anything, for once. Just a historically-important bowl. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-grail/761012/29 "2016-07-28T14:17:32Z")
> [@John\_W.Kennedy](#): > > Bad translation, Iā€™m sure. In most (Christian) languages, the word for ā€œEasterā€ is the same as the word for ā€œPassoverā€. [hangs head in shame] ā€¦ yeah yeah yeah ā€¦ my bad ā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-grail/761012/30 "2016-07-28T16:19:21Z")
> [@Canadjun](#): > > I seem to recall someone saying "Possession is nine tenths of the lawā€™ I think it was Bilbo in Chapter 6. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-grail/761012/31 "2016-07-28T22:35:56Z")
Just make sure itā€™s the true Holy Grail, or your flesh will start to melt if you drink out of it. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-grail/761012/32 "2016-07-29T01:44:17Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Just make sure itā€™s the true Holy Grail, or your flesh will start to melt if you drink out of it. If you chooseā€¦ poorly. ---
**Author:** ![srzss05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@srzss05](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/srzss05)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-grail/761012/33 "2016-07-31T15:39:09Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > This trinity thing is confusing. Father makes Industry. Son makes Agriculture. Spirit makes rest. Not all that confusingā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![John\_W.Kennedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_w.kennedy/32/1031_2.png) [@John\_W.Kennedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_W.Kennedy)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-grail/761012/34 "2016-08-01T03:04:10Z")
Since weā€™re talking about making: The Father has the Idea, The Son does the Work, and The Spirit sits in the audienceā€™s seat and watches the show to be sure everything works. ---
**Author:** ![squidfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@squidfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squidfood)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-grail/761012/35 "2016-08-10T02:24:18Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > which king of Aragon Judging from this thread, the one who married Arwen, right? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-grail/761012.md?page=1)