# Holy moly. I thought Kate Winslet was hot before, but now ... wow!

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 14, 2011, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-moly-i-thought-kate-winslet-was-hot-before-but-now-wow/596251 "2011-09-14T04:24:10Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-moly-i-thought-kate-winslet-was-hot-before-but-now-wow/596251/61 "2011-09-14T22:03:02Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> I was going to go all “Fool of a \<blank\>”, but I couldn’t think of a good one. Anyway, are you saying that Kate looks more like Power Girl, or am I missing something subtle?

Well, I was able to find a Power Girl cover that pretty much exactly matched Kate’s pose, hairstyle, costume, and…attributes. All she’s missing is the cutout for the y’know.

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-moly-i-thought-kate-winslet-was-hot-before-but-now-wow/596251/62 "2011-09-14T22:04:01Z")

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> [@chela](#):
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> The Stella dress is interesting, though it practically shouts at one to notice it…

So, you’re saying the dress insists upon itself?

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-moly-i-thought-kate-winslet-was-hot-before-but-now-wow/596251/63 "2011-09-14T23:26:04Z")

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> [@Colophon](#):
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> But you’d have to avoid white walls all night. 🙂

Yes, it’s like playing _Operation_.

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-moly-i-thought-kate-winslet-was-hot-before-but-now-wow/596251/64 "2011-09-14T23:55:16Z")

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Winslet’s pose kind of reminds me of “Standing Woman” by Gaston Lachiase. Not a twin, but similar pose, a similar attitude of confidence and power:

(NSFW – Nekkid statue!)

[Standing Woman](http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/opencollection/objects/1149/Standing_Woman)

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-moly-i-thought-kate-winslet-was-hot-before-but-now-wow/596251/65 "2011-09-15T00:14:33Z")

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> [@miss\_elizabeth](#):
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> That dress!!! I need it! I want it! I MUST HAVE IT! Fuck I hope they make a knockoff. That dress could make anyone look hot, but especially ME.

[Beg to differ…](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2035370/Gloria-Estefan-wears-Kate-Winslets-optical-illusion-dress-doesnt-quite-effect-.html)

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-moly-i-thought-kate-winslet-was-hot-before-but-now-wow/596251/66 "2011-09-15T00:33:11Z")

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That dress just makes me think of one of [these](http://tommysadvice.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/kitchen_apron-300x300.jpg).

Sorry.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-moly-i-thought-kate-winslet-was-hot-before-but-now-wow/596251/67 "2011-09-15T01:03:58Z")

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I thought she was hot all dolled up in _Titanic_ but she looks a lot worse everywhere else I’ve seen her.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-moly-i-thought-kate-winslet-was-hot-before-but-now-wow/596251/68 "2011-09-15T01:42:26Z")

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> [@Askance](#):
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> [Check out this photo](http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/fashion/kate-winslet-very-curvy-and-just-perfect-20110913-1k7bi.html)

Beyond hideous. You’re welcome to her.

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I love that dress, that pose, and her attitude in general.

Just because it is such a stunning picture, [Kate close up.](http://social2day.com/images/kate-winslet/kate-winslet16.jpg)

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-moly-i-thought-kate-winslet-was-hot-before-but-now-wow/596251/70 "2011-09-15T02:11:54Z")

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She has a great figure and it’s a fantastic dress but unfortunately the two don’t go together. I think one really has to have nice shoulders and upper arms to do it justice.

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**Author:** ![Ura-Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Ura-Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ura-Maru)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-moly-i-thought-kate-winslet-was-hot-before-but-now-wow/596251/71 "2011-09-15T02:20:09Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> I think the idea is that persons like Rob Liefield
> 
> :: ritual spitting ::
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> have long been drawing female characters with no regard for anatomical realities but much attention to titillation, and the photo linked to the IM was somewhat reminiscent of that.

I get that, I was disagreeing. Her hands have fingers, she has feet, she’s not in a position that’s physically impossible, all her assorted body parts are in the right place, and she’s interacting with the world around her instead of floating in front of it.

More, rather than being pencil thin with enormous spherical breasts and teeny, tiny hands, she has broad shoulders, full hips, normal sized hands, and assorted other properly proportioned bits. Liefeld has a particular problem with necks, while Kate has a neck the Goddess of Swans would envy.

In short, she’s actually sexy, instead of looking like some inebriated shape shiftier trying to mimic human sexiness.

In short, I posit she looks entirely unlike a Liefeld drawing.

She may look like a superheroine, but that’s neither the same thing, nor a negative.

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There should be a version of Godwin’s rule that applies to Liefeld. Whatever artistic horror you wish to accuse someone else of, it is not equivalent to Liefeld.

To be fair, he is a pretty good inker.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-moly-i-thought-kate-winslet-was-hot-before-but-now-wow/596251/72 "2011-09-15T02:36:55Z")

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It took you till now to notice Kate Winslet is one of the most [gorgeous](http://katewinsletrevolution.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/kate-winslet-figaro-madame-france_11dec2010_2.jpg) [women](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-hxdFq8ikK0I/Tlq4DsrRyfI/AAAAAAAASCo/5Nw4mrlxTbU/s1600/Kate%2Bhot%2Bactress%2BWinslet.jpg) [who](http://kariyarocks.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/kate-winslet-183.jpg)[ever](http://cinematicpassions.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/images-of-kate-winslet.jpg) [lived?](http://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/celebrities/kate-winslet/glamour-magazine-april-2011/kate-winslet-glamour-magazine-april-2011-03.jpg) And here we all arguing about her fashion sense and bone structure? What a case of not looking at the big picture. Let’s just sit back and enjoy the beauty. The only problem I have with Kate Winslet is she is not currently sitting on my face.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-moly-i-thought-kate-winslet-was-hot-before-but-now-wow/596251/73 "2011-09-15T03:00:09Z")

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An illusion dress like that can be a very good thing: It can significantly improve the appearance of the average woman. On Kate Winslet, though, it’s worse than wasted: Her own figure is already better than the figure the dress implies, and so when you see the dress’s figure, rather than Kate’s, it’s a step down.

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I clicked in assuming that the thread was a zombie from before _The Reader_.

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> An illusion dress like that can be a very good thing: It can significantly improve the appearance of the average woman. On Kate Winslet, though, it’s worse than wasted: Her own figure is already better than the figure the dress implies, and so when you see the dress’s figure, rather than Kate’s, it’s a step down.

Excellent point. Also, on Ms. Estefan (see **BrotherCadfael’s** link) it is downright tragic. Girl, the whole point is flesh compressing. Why you gonna wear a dress that’s two sizes too large?

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I’ve got to admit, I find Kate Winslet very “meh” in the looks department. I think she’s physically attractive, but I don’t see anything special about her, especially not when compared to some other professional actresses. Each to their own though.

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That dress does Kate no favors. She is a radiant goddess, but the dress is wearing her because it’s a dress for women who need to try hard.

[This is her in the last couple of weeks at the Venice Film Festival](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2033032/Venice-Film-Festival-2011-Kate-Winslet-puts-young-star-Evan-Rachel-Wood-shade-shorts-tuxedo.html). [Look at that flawlessness](http://socialitelife.com/kate-winslet-attends-the-venice-film-festival-talks-about-necker-island-fire-09-2011/carnage-photocall-68th-venice-film-festival-22). I mean, this is her [three days after she fled for her life, carrying a 90 year old woman on her shoulder, out of a house fire](http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/kate-winslet-reunites-with-richard-bransons-mom-at-fire-site-2011258).

This is _not_ a woman who has to try hard.

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> I think the idea is that persons like Rob Liefield
> 
> :: ritual spitting ::
> 
> have long been drawing female characters with no regard for anatomical realities but much attention to titillation, and the photo linked to the IM was somewhat reminiscent of that.

This is correct. I was also thinking about how unlike Winslet the photo appears. It is reminiscent of his inability to draw the same character with the same proportions between shots.

> [@Ura-Maru](#):
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> I get that, I was disagreeing. Her hands have fingers, she has feet, she’s not in a position that’s physically impossible, all her assorted body parts are in the right place, and she’s interacting with the world around her instead of floating in front of it.

These are all things that would be impossible in a real photograph.

> [@](#):
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> More, rather than being pencil thin with enormous spherical breasts and teeny, tiny hands, she has broad shoulders, full hips, normal sized hands, and assorted other properly proportioned bits. Liefeld has a particular problem with necks, while Kate has a neck the Goddess of Swans would envy.

Huh? The whole point of that dress is to make her breasts look bigger and her waist smaller. It’s the exact same thing Liefeld does to drawings, just not to the extremes of impossibility, hence why I used Liefeld-esque rather than saying she looked like a Liefeld drawing. This dress reminds me of what Liefeld does to women.

As for her neck, I invite you to compare her neck to the [first drawing](http://geekdraw.com/marvel-comics/invisible-woman/7699801) I found in a Google search for “Liefeld woman” that had someone facing the right direction.

I also point out that Sue also has the same broad shoulders I was talking about. Granted, this is one of Liefeld’s better work, but it’s still odd.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-moly-i-thought-kate-winslet-was-hot-before-but-now-wow/596251/79 "2011-09-15T12:04:56Z")

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> [@BrotherCadfael](#):
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> Bingo. I can’t figure out why on earth beautiful natural redheads go blonde. Just to take a couple of examples: Laura Prepon and Lindsay Lohan (yeah, she was beautiful, once) look terrible as blondes.

It’s really hard to dress as a redhead. I’ve done it a few times and hated every minute of it- whole color families go out the window, and for make-up basically you can only do the whole “coral-browns-neutrals” thing. You can never, for example, do a “cool silvery ice princess” look. It’s really, really, really dull.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-moly-i-thought-kate-winslet-was-hot-before-but-now-wow/596251/80 "2011-09-15T13:10:09Z")

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> [@even\_sven](#):
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> It’s really, really, really dull.

But really, really, really hot.

[aside]There was a girl waiting on the station platform this morning with thick, waist-length red hair, just hanging loose. The low morning sun was shining behind her and backlighting it and the effect was truly mesmerising. I could literally concentrate on nothing else.[/aside]

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