# Holy shit, DeVos was confirmed **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 7, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266 "2017-02-07T19:35:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/301 "2017-02-10T21:11:34Z")
> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#): > > I’d rather that money go to my wife please, since she’s the teacher buying the pencils right now. Actually the pencils have been ordered and the balance is going to network for public education. Off topic, but definitely check out donors choose. It’s for bigger projects than pencils but it does help a lot of schools. Your wife may want to get a project up there. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/302 "2017-02-10T21:45:08Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > This kind of protest drives me crazy. It’s totally unnecessary to block her from going into a public school. What makes you think she knows how to step foot in one anyway? Maybe it’s like Dracula. With no invitation she can’t step in 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2017, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/303 "2017-02-11T05:06:32Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I am curious as to how any alternative could be explained using objective evidence. Campaign contributions before country maybe? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2017, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/304 "2017-02-11T18:29:23Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > What I am talking about (and read this slowly so that you can understand it) is…her competence, her background, her intelligence, and her experience. > > Jesus fucking Christ, you fucking retard, you are as bad at mind reading as you are at regular reading. Maybe you should stop ASSuming what I would have thought in the hypothetical case, hmmmmmm? Sure, its a guess but its not a shot in the dark. Its a pretty good bet that you would be whining and bitching and moaning about whatever the fuck it is that you are told to whine and bitch and moan about. And you don’t even know why. You are a tool. Not even a useful tool because your “contributions” do more to undermine your side’s credibility than you realize. > [@](#): > > At least two of you are fucking retarded. Oh, I see \*\*Doorhinge \*\*is posting here. Three. Several of those people that you think are fucking retarded are on your side of the argument. If your post did not refer to her qualifications then your post is fairly meaningless and just sounds like whining. > [@](#): > > I’m insulting you because you’re stupid and annoying. Its pretty clear to everyone that you are insulting me because that’s all you have in your arsenal, and you are frustrated that people are disagreeing with your stupid ideas. If you want a liberal echo chamber where everyone will pat you on the back and give you attaboys for being a screaming banshee liberal, go elsewhere. The internet is rife with bubbles and echo chambers. This site is not one of them (yet). ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2017, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/305 "2017-02-11T19:01:30Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Sure, its a guess but its not a shot in the dark. Its a pretty good bet that you would be whining and bitching and moaning about whatever the fuck it is that you are told to whine and bitch and moan about. This is just wrong, but you’re too stupid to understand why or how it’s wrong. You are officially the first person ever to make my ban list (which is a phrase you should be used to by now, considering how many people have said it to you). You’re a fucking retard, and you’re just determined to prove it. Well, go prove it to someone else, I’m done with you. Between your demonstrated inability to read, your demonstrated inability to comprehend motivations, and your demonstrated inability to mind read, I feel comfortable in saying that you’re not good at anything. Wait…you’re good at churning out reams of stupid posts, one after the other, because you’re too stupid to understand when you’re wrong. Well, I’m not going to see them any more. Anyway, goodbye. I hope you improve as a person, but it’ll be without my help. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/306 "2017-02-11T20:33:42Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > If the country follows DeVos’s direction, religious education will be strengthened, and Republican campaign contributers will be enriched. The effect of voucher programs will be a small but significant increase in American income inequality. These are all objective facts that Republicans believe will help the country. Honestly, I really don’t think Republicans think this will benefit the country. I think they just know it will benefit their paymasters, and to be honest I don’t think they even thought this as far as you have. Trump nominated her because she paid him to, nothing more and nothing less. Republican senators confirmed her in most cases because she paid them to, and in some cases because they’re not going to cooperate with Democrats whether it hurts the country or not. I think it probably is true that SOME of them voted for DeVos because she’s a religious fanatic, they’re a religious fanatic, and so they see a fellow traveller in her. But that’s not as many of them as one might assume. As to why anyone would support DeVos, I would assume they’re either stupid or a religious fanatic. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/307 "2017-02-11T21:51:30Z")
The word I’ve heard is “idiotlogue”. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/308 "2017-02-11T21:55:00Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > As to why anyone would support DeVos, I would assume they’re either stupid or a religious fanatic. Any reason they can’t be both? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2017, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/309 "2017-02-11T23:56:11Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Its pretty clear to everyone that you are insulting me because that’s all you have in your arsenal, and you are frustrated that people are disagreeing with your stupid ideas. Uh…no. That’s not what’s pretty clear to everyone. Ask around, and I’m pretty sure you’ll find that it’s pretty clear to most folks that EE has amply answered your questions, and that your persistence in not recognizing those answers has earned you all the insults he’s thrown at you. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/310 "2017-02-12T00:42:59Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Uh…no. That’s not what’s pretty clear to everyone. Ask around, and I’m pretty sure you’ll find that it’s pretty clear to most folks that EE has amply answered your questions, and that your persistence in not recognizing those answers has earned you all the insults he’s thrown at you. I’m with LHoD. DA would have to be considerably smarter to qualify as a fuckwit. I just don’t understand why so many entertain him (and others) for so long. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/311 "2017-02-12T02:49:29Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > This is quite literally the first real job Betsy DeVos has ever had. How would she know anything about working people? She’s watched them raise her kids. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/312 "2017-02-12T21:13:11Z")
[Dept. of Education apologizes for misspelling W.E.B. Du Bois](https://www.yahoo.com/news/dept-of-education-apologizes-for-misspelling-w-e-b-du-bois-181846110.html) > [@](#): > > The U.S. Department of Education apologized Sunday for a tweet that misspelled the name of W.E.B. Du Bois while quoting the late writer, historian and civil rights activist. > > The tweet spelled his last name “DeBois” — a typo that appeared to mimic the name of the department’s controversial new secretary, Betsy DeVos. > > The Du Bois error was left unaddressed for nearly four hours before the department posted a corrected version of the tweet and issued an apology — which also included a typo. > > “Our deepest apologizes for the earlier typo,” the initial apology tweet read before a second one was issued. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/313 "2017-02-12T23:09:04Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [Dept. of Education apologizes for misspelling W.E.B. Du Bois](https://www.yahoo.com/news/dept-of-education-apologizes-for-misspelling-w-e-b-du-bois-181846110.html) jezus Fucking CHRIST :smack::smack::smack: ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/314 "2017-02-12T23:25:29Z")
Cuz of course things never get [accidentally](http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/372869/obama-misspells-respect-while-honoring-aretha-franklin-cnn-covers-him-alec-torres) [misspelled](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ucO-lpjlUTg/TWWXgisADtI/AAAAAAAAAaQ/hS5OmGIP0pw/s1600/Misspelled+Libya.png) in previous administration. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/315 "2017-02-12T23:39:25Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Cuz of course things never get [accidentally](http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/372869/obama-misspells-respect-while-honoring-aretha-franklin-cnn-covers-him-alec-torres) [misspelled](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ucO-lpjlUTg/TWWXgisADtI/AAAAAAAAAaQ/hS5OmGIP0pw/s1600/Misspelled+Libya.png) in previous administration. Look who can’t even spell the state correctly. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/316 "2017-02-12T23:57:54Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > Not everyone follows links. And will that link still work in 5 years’ time? Possibly not. So someone reading it then might see that it was a link to the Huffington Post - not normally a satire site - and conclude that it was genuine. So you really think things will get so bad that people will actually think she would flatten globes? The title is satirical enough. Plus you accused others of not knowing it was satirical, which means you thought even someone who read the article might not know. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/317 "2017-02-13T14:03:01Z")
Well, this one isn’t a joke. > [@](#): > > A Department of Education website explaining the rights of students under the federal Individuals with Disabilities Education Act has vanished. That’s the same law that confounded new Education Secretary Betsy DeVos during her confirmation hearings. > > DeVos dodged questioning about the law last month, insisting it was up to individual states on whether to grant disabled students their educational rights, even though it’s a federal law that applies across the nation. > > New U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions has also blasted the act for its “special treatment of certain children,” blaming it for the “acceleration in the decline of civility and discipline in classrooms across America.” > > The website appeared to stop working shortly before DeVos took office, the Seattle Post Intelligencer reported. > > The Department of Education site now attributes the broken link to “technical difficulties” and instead sends people to the 159-page text of the very technical, complicated statute. The department site also lists available special education programs… [Cite](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/devos-disabilities-web-site_us_58a0fd7ae4b094a129ec35b8) ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/318 "2017-02-13T14:13:13Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Cuz of course things never get [accidentally](http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/372869/obama-misspells-respect-while-honoring-aretha-franklin-cnn-covers-him-alec-torres) [misspelled](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ucO-lpjlUTg/TWWXgisADtI/AAAAAAAAAaQ/hS5OmGIP0pw/s1600/Misspelled+Libya.png) in previous administration. Potatoe, potahto. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/319 "2017-02-13T14:25:47Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [Dept. of Education apologizes for misspelling W.E.B. Du Bois](https://www.yahoo.com/news/dept-of-education-apologizes-for-misspelling-w-e-b-du-bois-181846110.html) Not surprising, coming from a Department of Education run by Betsy Biv Devos. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/320 "2017-02-13T14:59:57Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > This is just wrong, but you’re too stupid to understand why or how it’s wrong. You are officially the first person ever to make my ban list (which is a phrase you should be used to by now, considering how many people have said it to you). No, its not wrong. You are a tool. And not even a particularly useful tool because you do more to damage the credibility of liberalism than you do to defend it. There are a lot of snowflakes on this board who cannot tolerate logic and reason when it stands in the way of their liberal ideology. You are joining the cadre of snowflakes who choose to block out dissenting views because their delicately balanced world views are not robust enough to stand up to critical thought. Good luck with your life, you will spend much of it continually baffled by why the world doesn’t seem to make sense and why everyone doesn’t think exactly the same as you do. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266.md?page=17)