# Holy shit, DeVos was confirmed **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 7, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266 "2017-02-07T19:35:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/61 "2017-02-07T22:41:08Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > Notice none of the usual Republican suspects on this thread is actually defending DeVos on policy grounds, just “HA HA, liberal tears!”. That’s kinda what helped Trump get elected. Easily swayed, not high on the critical thinking ladder voters were sick and tired of being told they’re stupid when they’re being stupid. I think a good chunk of the voters for Trump was just a middle finger at liberals. doorhinge’s gloating, and to be honest a great deal of the … louder … conservatives on this board are great evidence of that. Stupid people don’t like being told they’re stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/62 "2017-02-07T22:45:02Z")
> [@Tee](#): > > I agree. I have no proof, but still… Murkowski and Collins are both on the Senate Health Education Labor & Pensions Committee. If they really cared that DeVos wasn’t qualified, either one of them could have stopped her nomination by voting “no” in committee. Neither did. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/63 "2017-02-07T22:53:08Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > Again, here’s the perfect example of a so-called “conservative” who doesn’t actually care about the Republicans enacting any sort of policy changes. All that matters is that his side wins, and what they do with that win is utterly irrelevant to him. He doesn’t want DeVos as Secretary of Education because he agrees with her educational policy, he wants her because he’s a Republican and she’s a Republican. Team Spirit. I blame high school football. ---
**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/64 "2017-02-07T23:00:22Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Apparently there literally aren’t 3 Republicans who require basic competence in their nominees, and that’s something that should alarm everyone on every side of the aisle. > . When you get right down to it, there weren’t even two. IIRC, Collins could have stopped the whole business in committee, but chose not to. She and Murkowski knew good and well there wouldn’t be a third so they were safe pretending to be “moderate.” ---
**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/65 "2017-02-07T23:05:23Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > So why did they choose a clueless Republican over a Republican who has a clue? Perhaps this offers a hint… House bill introduced to abolish the Department of Education [http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/318310-gop-lawmaker-proposes-abolishing-department-of-education](http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/318310-gop-lawmaker-proposes-abolishing-department-of-education) ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/66 "2017-02-07T23:07:23Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > So you think DeVos will be a great Secretary of Education? Nah, you’re completely missing the point of doorhinge and the other doorknobs. The Dems lost, see? They lost! THE DEMOCRATS LOST! So abso-fuckin’-lutely nothing the Republicans (who are in power because THE DEMOCRATS LOST!) do matters, at all. So get over it, because THE DEMOCRATS LOST. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/67 "2017-02-07T23:08:40Z")
Another promise Trump kept, he drained the swamp to make room to build an open air toxic waste dump. ---
**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/68 "2017-02-07T23:28:14Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > Murkowski and Collins are both on the Senate Health Education Labor & Pensions Committee. If they really cared that DeVos wasn’t qualified, either one of them could have stopped her nomination by voting “no” in committee. Neither did. I know nothing about Murkowski. Collins is a throwback liberal Republican in a state where you can still find them, like Moxie soda. She is the only Republican Senator in New England and she’s not going to help them all that much, so even if true – meh. It still shows more principle than a lot of other Senators we could name. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/69 "2017-02-07T23:32:49Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > I asked you to stop hitting on me. Creeper. What on earth are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/70 "2017-02-07T23:33:54Z")
[SecEduc Betsy DeVos is on Twitter.](https://twitter.com/SecEdBetsyDeVos) “In 90 days we will begin the execution of fat and slow kids.” ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/71 "2017-02-07T23:36:51Z")
Well Trump university was such a success I image that the with Devos’ promotion of school choice we can look forward to Trump elementary, Trump middle school and Trump High. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/72 "2017-02-07T23:37:04Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Does this mean that the elected Democrat’s actually do have the votes they needed to prevent DeVos’s confirmation? It doesn’t appear to me that they have the votes to deny the confirmation. > > The Democrat Party just can’t lose for all the winning they’ve been doing. :rolleyes: It requires a D to vote against a ridiculously unqualified candidate? You are saying SOMETHING about the republicans, but it’s not very flattering. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/73 "2017-02-07T23:37:11Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > [SecEduc Betsy DeVos is on Twitter.](https://twitter.com/SecEdBetsyDeVos) > > “In 90 days we will begin the execution of fat and slow kids.” You had me going for a minute. At first I thought it was a parody. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/74 "2017-02-07T23:40:50Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > My goodness you’re an angry, bitter little fuck. > [@doorhinge](#): > > I gave him good advice. > > FYI, stop hitting on me, creeper. If you think that’s hitting on someone, i think we may know why you are so angry and bitter. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/75 "2017-02-07T23:40:56Z")
I guess that is what passes for humor in Democratic circles. Sad! ---
**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/76 "2017-02-07T23:50:36Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > But why does fighting liberalism in education require such a pig-ignorant secretary of education? Was there no-one competent who could play the role? Agreed. Personally I would welcome a Great Debate on what the Federal Government should be doing with education vs the States - but that is my bias in regards to a lot things under Federal control. But even though I support charter schools and vouchers, I am not anti-union. Most importantly - this lady appears to be an idiot with zero concept of how Federal education policy even works. Good luck to the bureaucrats. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/77 "2017-02-07T23:54:01Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > [SecEduc Betsy DeVos is on Twitter.](https://twitter.com/SecEdBetsyDeVos) > > “In 90 days we will begin the execution of fat and slow kids.” That feed is great. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/78 "2017-02-07T23:54:25Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > I guess that is what passes for humor in Democratic circles. Sad! I guess this what passes for wit in republican circles. Pathetic! ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/79 "2017-02-07T23:57:32Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Yeah, **doorhinge** , we get it. We know the reason why the Democrats didn’t block this nomination: They didn’t because they couldn’t, because they lack the numbers. That’s not the question. The question is why didn’t the Republicans block her? And that’s a good question, because they _do_ have the numbers, and _could_ have blocked her. If even one more of them had said, no, we want someone who has a clue, they could have had one. It’s not like they’d be betraying their party by doing so: Whoever else Trump nominated would still have been a Republican, after all. So why did they choose a clueless Republican over a Republican who has a clue? Because politics has devolved to this point. ---
**Author:** ![MoodIndigo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@MoodIndigo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoodIndigo1)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-devos-was-confirmed/779266/80 "2017-02-08T00:02:14Z")
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