# Holy Shit! I'm movin' to Dallas! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 18, 2004, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336 "2004-08-18T02:11:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![NotMrKnowItAll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6bbea6/32.png) [@NotMrKnowItAll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotMrKnowItAll)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2004, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336/41 "2004-08-18T16:34:33Z")
> [@Little Plastic Ninja](#): > > We just get a mighty lot of this from people who’ve never actually been to Texas and think Dallas, to pick a city at random, is full of cowboy-boot-and-hat-wearing long tall lean cowboys, when in fact it looks a lot more like New York than you might imagine. Indeed! You go to Fort Worth for Cowboy boots and wasp waisted cowpokes. Some famous dude, Will Rogers maybe, said: Fort Worth is where the West begins and Dallas is where the East peters out. ---
**Author:** ![TitoBenito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2acd7d/32.png) [@TitoBenito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TitoBenito)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2004, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336/42 "2004-08-18T16:34:46Z")
> [@Slacker](#): > > **Word.** > I’ve met lots of people who (somehow) enjoy Chipolte. Invariably, those people have not tried Freebirds to find out what they’re missing. 😉 There is a Freebirds here! I though I was going to have to eat at Chipotle to get a barrito. This city just went up a grade in my book. As to ElvisL1ves comments. Good point, but if thats what a Yankee is why couldn’t I find any in New York and Boston? Must have moved to Canada. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2004, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336/43 "2004-08-18T16:58:45Z")
**Dewey** , I’d been curious how your search was going and am pleased to hear the good news, especially since it puts you back home. I’ve arguably got four of the best seats at The Ballpark so next time I’m up (infrequent) maybe you and **Minty** will be free to join me at a game. Good for you, buddy. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2004, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336/44 "2004-08-18T17:04:25Z")
> [@NotMrKnowItAll](#): > > Indeed! > > You go to Fort Worth for Cowboy boots and wasp waisted cowpokes. > > Some famous dude, Will Rogers maybe, said: > > Fort Worth is where the West begins and > Dallas is where the East peters out. Preeeeecisely. 🙂 It strikes me that Texas seems to have two dominant male phenotypes (that’s the right word, isn’t it?) – tall and skinny like Lyle Lovett and short and stocky like W. The really, really irritating thing is that my father, a native Texan, is short and stocky. And looks a bit like the President. Doesn’t sound a bit like him, but still, glancing at the TV and seeing “Dad? No, no, oh ugh” is disconcerting. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2004, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336/45 "2004-08-18T17:14:49Z")
> [@InkBlot](#): > > Tip #2: Avoid Chipotle. > It’s a restaurant chain infecting our area. They claim to make burritos, which I supposed if you described a burrito to a blind man with no taste buds and only three fingers than whatever he was able to reproduce will be a fair approximation. There is such a wealth of tex-mex food in Texas, and for monster-sized burritos you can’t do better than Freebirds at Lovers & Greenville. [Chipotle is owned by the McDonald’s Corporation.](http://www.licenseenews.com/news/news50.html) That pretty much says it all, I think. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2004, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336/46 "2004-08-18T18:04:03Z")
> [@Little Plastic Ninja](#): > > We just get a mighty lot of this from people who’ve never actually been to Texas and think Dallas, to pick a city at random, is full of cowboy-boot-and-hat-wearing long tall lean cowboys, when in fact it looks a lot more like New York than you might imagine. I \*have \* been to Dallas, more times than I want to think about, and it looks nothing at all like New York (have \*you \* ever been _there_?) Indianapolis, maybe, but with more pickup trucks and western-wear shops. Tell us, do you ever get in trouble for looking too much like a Yankee? ---
**Author:** ![racinchikki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@racinchikki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racinchikki)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2004, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336/47 "2004-08-18T19:24:14Z")
I concur; Dallas looks and feels nothing like NYC. The couple of blocks with the tall buildings on them kind of reminded me of this one time I was in Boston and I wasn’t paying much attention. But then at the end of the road there was a bunch of bronze cows so no. ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2004, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336/48 "2004-08-18T19:32:09Z")
I find living in Dallas itself to be really great. There are some really nice (but still affordable, at least on a professional salary) neigborhoods around town, including Kessler Park, Lake Highlands, and the White Rock area. To each their own, of course, but I find the city much more interesting than Plano or Frisco, and completely comfortable to live in. Plus, I don’t waste two or more hours each day commuting to and from work, so I actually get to spend extra time with the little one instead of sitting in traffic. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2004, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336/49 "2004-08-18T19:32:24Z")
More like Atlanta… with hats. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2004, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336/50 "2004-08-18T19:38:22Z")
Oakland…with tornados. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2004, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336/51 "2004-08-18T19:47:07Z")
Minneapolis… without mosquitoes… ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2004, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336/52 "2004-08-18T19:54:10Z")
If you’re the type of person who’s thinking of being unfaithful to your partner, the Dallas area probably isn’t the best place to go, what with Joey Greco and the _Cheaters_ cameras keeping an eye on things. ---
**Author:** ![Tusculan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecd19e/32.png) [@Tusculan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tusculan)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2004, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336/53 "2004-08-18T20:03:53Z")
Congratulations! Haven’t seen either you or **minty** around a lot lately, which I assumed to be a good sign of business picking up. Glad to see you back in the saddle, so to speak. ---
**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2004, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336/54 "2004-08-18T20:09:57Z")
> [@Greathouse](#): > > In all of my 30 years of living in Dallas (and the surrounding suburbs), the only people I have ever heard use the term “Dallas Proper” were yankees\*. As a (nearly) native Dallasite, I agree that I rarely hear anyone say “Dallas Proper”. Most will just say the name of their neighborhood (Lake Highlands, Northpark, The “M” Streets, White Rock, Oak Cliff, Downtown, etc.). I live in the Town of Addison, on the northern border between Plano and Dallas, and I love it. Right on the tollway, and you can get anywhere in the Dallas area within 15 minutes (traffic permitting). When I’m ready for a bigger house, I’m looking at Oak Cliff. It’s an old neighborhood with stately old houses, big trees, yards and wide streets. No cookie-cutter houses like up north. However, the public schools are not great\*, and it does border “the 'hood” (South Oak Cliff). But if you want a house with some Old Dallas charm, you’ll get the most for money in Oak Cliff. \*The DISD is pretty screwed up at every level. Most “successful” types put their kids in private schools if they live in a DISD neighborhood. Welcome to town, **Dewey**. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Cheatem_Undhow)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2004, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336/55 "2004-08-19T01:27:01Z")
First of all, thanks everyone for the nice words and advice. I’ll keep a printout of this thread handy. > [@Billdo](#): > > Count me in on the drinks. Yessuh. Now other Dopers need to step to the plate. We can’t have **Billdo** (and **Greathouse** in Dallas) shouldering my drinking needs all by his lonesome. 🙂 > [@Ponder Stibbons](#): > > I also hear that housing around the intersection of MLK Blvd and Malcolm X Avenue is a particularly good buy. As Chris Rock puts it, if you’re on MLK anywhere in America, you’re in trouble. “You’re on MLK?!? Ruuuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnn!” > [@Ponder Stibbons](#): > > Hey! With a newcomer coming to town, are we going to start planning a Dallas Dopefest? An excellent question. > [@NotMrKnowItAll](#): > > New York Republicans translate to liberal Democrats here. I’'m sorry, you’ll have to switch parties. There just no way around it. I doubt it. I’m like Attila the Hun up here. Recall I grew up in Texas. > [@NotMrKnowItAll](#): > > Grocery shopping: You must check out Central Market on Greenville, everything you could want. I shopped at the original Central Market back when I was a law student at UT in Austin. Indeed, it is tres cool. > [@lieu](#): > > I’ve arguably got four of the best seats at The Ballpark so next time I’m up (infrequent) maybe you and Minty will be free to join me at a game. Groovah. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2004, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336/56 "2004-08-19T06:21:38Z")
> [@minty green](#): > > More lawyers is good for business. **Dewey** puts the business deals together, I tear 'em apart. Then he puts 'em back together, and the Great Circle of Law moves ever forward. The word you were looking for was “around”, Minty ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2004, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336/57 "2004-08-19T14:16:59Z")
> [@Dewey Cheatem Undhow](#): > > As Chris Rock puts it, if you’re on MLK anywhere in America, you’re in trouble. “You’re on MLK?!? Ruuuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnn!” Darn! So much for my little practical joke. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2004, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336/58 "2004-08-20T00:34:09Z")
> [@Pashnish Ewing](#): > > \*The DISD is pretty screwed up at every level. Most “successful” types put their kids in private schools if they live in a DISD neighborhood. Hey! DISD teacher here–DISD schools don’t ALL suck. Many do. My students that are DISD magnet-school educated are as well educated as the kids that come to me from the ritsy private schools, and because of the particular school I teach at I see a lot of both. Depending on where you work, South Richardson is an amazingly cheap area that is really just 15-20 minutes from downtown–if you are looking to buy, there are some very affordable houses. It’s a bit boring, yes, but safe and convienent and cheap. ---
**Author:** ![delphica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9a140/32.png) [@delphica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/delphica)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2004, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336/59 "2004-08-20T01:38:42Z")
> [@Dewey Cheatem Undhow](#): > > Now other Dopers need to step to the plate. We can’t have **Billdo** (and **Greathouse** in Dallas) shouldering my drinking needs all by his lonesome. 🙂 What am I, chopped livah? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2004, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336/60 "2004-08-20T21:57:25Z")
> [@Manda JO](#): > > Hey! DISD teacher here–DISD schools don’t ALL suck. Many do. My students that are DISD magnet-school educated are as well educated as the kids that come to me from the ritsy private schools, and because of the particular school I teach at I see a lot of both. Yikes! I completely forgot about the DISD magnet schools, which do have an excellent reputation. My apologies! :smack: Pash Oh, and **Dewey** , I’ll pony up for one of those drinks (now that you’ve shamed me into it). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-im-movin-to-dallas/260336.md?page=4)