# Holy shit! That's some plastic surgery.

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 21, 2014, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027 "2014-10-21T14:13:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Toucanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Toucanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toucanna)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/41 "2014-10-21T20:13:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Inner Stickler]  
{snip} …pulled a Jennifer Grey…  
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I give you E.G. Daily, “[Dottie](http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2013/09/25/peewees-big-adventure-eg-daily.jpg)” from _Pee Wee’s Big Adventure_ (1985), and the [singer](http://img003.lazygirls.info/people/e_g_daily/e_g_daily_better_off_dead_6wFEzde.sized.jpg) from _Better Off Dead_ (1985): [today](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/fhN_GlOGklg/0.jpg).

Some might like her new look (I honestly hope she does and is happy with it), but I thought she her natural self was adorable.

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**Author:** ![Nuveena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a587f6/32.png) [@Nuveena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nuveena)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/42 "2014-10-21T20:49:23Z")

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I’m pretty sure that’s Kelly Lynch from Roadhouse or Priscilla Barnes from Three’s Company. Either way, she looks good for 55/58.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/43 "2014-10-21T21:07:29Z")

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Gasp! Where, oh where has my Nurse Betty gone? \<cry\>

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/44 "2014-10-21T21:13:11Z")

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If I was her husband, I’d feel like I was having an affair every time I was with her. Hey, maybe that’s their kink.

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/45 "2014-10-21T21:29:16Z")

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> [@gwendee](#):
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> I wonder though, if this isn’t the most publicity Renee Z has had since 2010. As far as her “not aging well” goes, IMDB makes her one year younger than I am, and she looks ten years younger than I look. (Not than I AM, just than I look.)

I wouldn’t say that, as she got a similar amount of publicity for exactly the same thing almost exactly twelve months ago:

> **[Bridget Jones has been remixed for the 21st century - and she's got a new face](https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/you-seen-renee-zellwegers-face-2664440)**
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> Is shame Mark Darcy lost in Darfur and not here to see new me but would probably just be all repressed and ask if had changed my hair or similar

> **[Renee Zellweger Unrecognizable — Did She Get Plastic Surgery? Vote](https://hollywoodlife.com/2013/11/04/renee-zellweger-plastic-surgery-long-shot-movie-premiere/)**
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> Renee had us doing a double take as she stepped out for a screening of the movie ‘Long Shot: The Kevin Laue Story’ in Burbank, Calif. on November 2. Do you think she’s had work do…

> **[UNRECOGNISABLE](https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/11/04/renee-zellweger-surgery_n_4211470.html)**
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> UNRECOGNISABLE

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/46 "2014-10-21T23:30:33Z")

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Another surprising change in appearance is [Zach Galifianakis](http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2164972/original.jpg). He stopped drinking and lost a bunch of weight.

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**Author:** ![dracoi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dracoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dracoi)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/47 "2014-10-21T23:41:03Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> Awww…she went from “That’s Renee Zellwegger” to “blonde actress, mid-40s”.

Well… I’m not so sure I’d give her mid-40s. Especially in Hollywood, I think I’d give her “mid-60s hoping to pass for 40s”

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/48 "2014-10-21T23:47:58Z")

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This is just the break that Joey Lauren Adams has been waiting for!

If nothing else, I bet she could steal Zellweger’s restaurant reservations.

“No, I’M Renee Zellweger! She has MY table!”  
“Yeah right, lady. go back to your PTA meeting…”

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/49 "2014-10-22T02:35:14Z")

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[Brett Butler](http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BODAwNTg0NTM4OV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMjUzNTc0Nw@@._V1_SX214_CR0,0,214,317_AL_.jpg). That’s who I’ve been trying to remember.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Stilettos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/fbc32d/32.png) [@Red\_Stilettos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Stilettos)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/50 "2014-10-22T03:01:31Z")

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Part of what is so distracting to me is that her eyebrows are so sparse. It really lengthens the top of her face because she is missing that bit of definition. If she filled in her brows, I think she’d look much more like herself.

Other than that, I can’t figure out what she might have done. She has the wrinkles you’d expect for someone her age, so I don’t think she’s done Botox. I agree that she looks to have lost a good bit of fullness in her face, which could be surgery, aging, or illness. Plus, she’s not doing the squinty, pouty thing she usually does.

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**Author:** ![Barking\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Barking\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barking_Dog)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/51 "2014-10-22T03:37:55Z")

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_Is_ that really Zellwegger? Seriously, is there proof the woman in those photos is actually Zellwegger and not someone claiming to be her with plastic surgery? I’m not trying to be cute. I’m looking at older photos right now and I genuinely see no resemblance.  
Folks keep mentioning Jennifer Grey, but she’s still recognizable. You look at her and you don’t need anyone to tell you her name.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/52 "2014-10-22T03:44:14Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> You know, it doesn’t look like she’s had her eyes (or brows) lifted so much as had her cheeks lowered. In the recent pictures she looks much less cherubic.

> [@Red\_Stilettos](#):
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> Other than that, I can’t figure out what she might have done. She has the wrinkles you’d expect for someone her age, so I don’t think she’s done Botox. I agree that she looks to have lost a good bit of fullness in her face, which could be surgery, aging, or illness.

These are my thoughts. It somehow doesn’t look like surgery to me. Many people are quick to jump on plastic surgery as the reason for any change that may actually be natural or due to illness, diet, or exercise, and I don’t think it is surgery this time.

But if it is, it’s comments like this that may be responsible for her wanting it:

> [@twickster](#):
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> I’ve always said she should get something done about her squinty eyes, but good lord.

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/53 "2014-10-22T03:58:06Z")

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She’s turned herself into Glenn Close’s sister.

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**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/54 "2014-10-22T04:20:22Z")

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She’s not smiling either, and she used to smile very big and toothy (squinty eyes and all).

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/55 "2014-10-22T04:28:02Z")

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In the future, nobody will be able to understand why [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FMPBs_Jg2w) was supposed to be funny…

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/56 "2014-10-22T05:17:54Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> That’s where I think here mistake is, from a marketing sense. Looks are important for an actor, but there’s something even more important: branding. An actor, once they achieve a certain level of success,becomes a brand, with a recognizable face and public persona. It’s the brand that puts seats in theaters, not the face.
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> Now, it’s true that the “Rene Zellwegger brand” has been in decline over the past decade, but it still had some value, maybe some comeback potential. Now she’s lost it.

This. I’ve seen some stories saying how people are being mean and bullying her about her looks but to me it’s not an “OHMYGOD She looks horrible!” but “Who the hell is that?” moment. She looks like a totally different person. If I had been shown that picture and not told who it was, I never would have guessed it was her.

> [@Barking\_Dog](#):
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> _Is_ that really Zellwegger? Seriously, is there proof the woman in those photos is actually Zellwegger and not someone claiming to be her with plastic surgery? I’m not trying to be cute. I’m looking at older photos right now and I genuinely see no resemblance.  
> Folks keep mentioning Jennifer Grey, but she’s still recognizable. You look at her and you don’t need anyone to tell you her name.

I had the same thought as well.

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**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/57 "2014-10-22T05:19:11Z")

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What can you say when you’re late to a thread and everyone’s already said all there is but there’s still something inside that you’ve just got to say?

_Renee!_

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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/58 "2014-10-22T07:30:33Z")

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> This. I’ve seen some stories saying how people are being mean and bullying her about her looks but to me it’s not an “OHMYGOD She looks horrible!” but “Who the hell is that?” moment. She looks like a totally different person. If I had been shown that picture and not told who it was, I never would have guessed it was her.

That was _exactly_ my reaction. I wonder if she’s gone Hollywood super-skinny which may be why her face is so thin. In one of the articles, they were comparing her current look to one of the earlier Bridget Jones-era pics. From what I remember, she’d gained weight for the first one at least (I lost interest after that).

I sadly admit to snickering at the sidebar on one of the articles posted above. There was another article entitled: “5 Stars Who Look More Like Renée Zellweger Than Renée Zellweger”.

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**Author:** ![Becky2844](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Becky2844](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Becky2844)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/59 "2014-10-22T11:02:20Z")

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I hope it’s not permanent. Doesn’t botox eventually wear off? It’s too bad people think they need to tweak their appearance to the point they lose their distinctiveness and end up all looking alike. Made me think of that game where contestants would try to guess the celebrity from just a portion of their faces—I wouldn’t be able to recognize the eyebrows between Sly Stalone, Kenny Rogers, and Al Pacino.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/60 "2014-10-22T11:05:52Z")

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> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#):
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> Oh my goodness. I would have not recognized her. It’s like what Kenny Rogers did.

Which is odd, because IIRC, he looked like himself in that GEICO commercial to me. Did it just “wear off” or something?

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