# Holy shit! That's some plastic surgery. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 21, 2014, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027 "2014-10-21T14:13:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/81 "2014-10-22T22:33:31Z")
I dunno, seems a lot of the changes here are makeup- lighter lips, lighter foundation and more natural eye makeup. Less blush and less eyebrow fill. ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/82 "2014-10-22T22:52:04Z")
> [@well\_he\_s\_back](#): > > Agreed, she can look however she wants to look. And I hope she’s happy. However, I don’t think it’s out of line or insulting to comment that Renee Zellweger no longer looks like Renee Zellweger. Plus, her face is “public property”. Her face is one of the reasons the public embraced her as an actress. We have every right to be bitchy with regards the results of her trying to improve her looks by artificial means. I wouldn’t say anything to her in person about how bad she looks(not that im likely to ever get that chance). However, I do reserve the right to be bitchy about it on an internet forum. It’s a pity really. She seems quite a nice person. I can think of dozens of other celebrities I would prefer to have seen plastic surgery go wrong on. ---
**Author:** ![Becky2844](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Becky2844](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Becky2844)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/83 "2014-10-22T23:26:52Z")
Wow **Cat Whisperer** , that’s horrifying. I wonder if these people who get so messed up react to it like we do? Even the ones who just get a little sumpin sumpin done should know people are going to notice. (Isn’t that why they do it in the first place?) I don’t have a cite, but I remember Jennifer Grey saying her nose job almost cost her her career. Whoever mentioned branding earlier is right; it’s not that I think Rene looks bad exactly, she just doesn’t look like herself anymore. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/84 "2014-10-22T23:45:04Z")
You guys, it’s not plastic surgery. Rene Zellweger responds: > [@](#): > > A “peaceful” life is the reason behind Oscar winner Renee Zellweger’s startling new appearance. > “I’m glad folks think I look different! I’m living a different, happy, more fulfilling life and I’m thrilled that perhaps it shows,”…“For a long time I wasn’t doing such a good job with that. I took on a schedule that is not realistically sustainable and didn’t allow for taking care of myself. Rather than stopping to recalibrate, I kept running until I was depleted and made bad choices about how to conceal the exhaustion. I was aware of the chaos and finally chose different things.” So there you go. All she needed was some much needed rest. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/85 "2014-10-22T23:59:38Z")
When other people suffer an allergic reaction and their face gets bloated, they do tend to look like Renee Zellwegger. Then they recover and go back to how they used to look. An example is [Julia](http://hairstyles.thehairstyler.com/hairstyle_views/front_view_images/7484/original/Julia-Stiles.jpg) [Stiles](http://i62.tinypic.com/bgtd8n.jpg). Maybe Renee has come out the other side of a lifetime of allergic reactions or some equivalent thereof. ---
**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/86 "2014-10-23T05:55:15Z")
Oh pooh, I have a friend I’ve known from childhood, who has the same Nordic features and has a similar heritage (she is a Sami and proud of it). She has looked the same from teen to 60s, she has aged very well, she was never fat although she gained a little during the years when she was pregnant a few times and then lost it when she hit her 50s. And she looked the same whether she was having a peaceful life at the time or not. I’m guessing she had fat removed from her upper eyelids (above the eye but under the brow) and maybe cheek implants. I agree that she doesn’t look bad, but she doesn’t look like the same person. I wonder if she’s trying to avoid facial recognition software? ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/87 "2014-10-23T09:47:34Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > This seems quite possible. If Ms. Zellweger has some Scandinavian ancestry (perhaps Finnish?), that might account for the epicanthic folds that are part of her old, familiar look. Close. She’s part Saami. (So is Joni Mitchell.) Renée is also part ethnic Finnish from Norway. If you look at a lot of Saami women, they share similar features with Renée, such as broad and high cheekbones. Renée looked right at home among them. Now, not so much. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/88 "2014-10-23T11:13:35Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > This. I’ve seen some stories saying how people are being mean and bullying her about her looks but to me it’s not an “OHMYGOD She looks horrible!” but “Who the hell is that?” moment. She looks like a totally different person. If I had been shown that picture and not told who it was, I never would have guessed it was her. That’s me too. I actually think she looks fine with her new face - if indeed it is her; it looks so unlike her that an elaborate Joaquin-Phoenix-style hoax isn’t off the cards - it’s just that this is a different person. She looks as much like Renee Zellwegger as I do. Actually, dye my hair blonde and I look more like RZ than this person does. So the main thing isn’t “women shouldn’t have plastic surgery,” or anything at all except “woah. Is this her?” > [@Johanna](#): > > Close. She’s part Saami. (So is Joni Mitchell.) Renée is also part ethnic Finnish from Norway. If you look at a lot of Saami women, they share similar features with Renée, such as broad and high cheekbones. Renée looked right at home among them. Now, not so much. That’s a pretty proud ethnic heritage to have. By that I mean that the Saami have managed to live in extremely hostile conditions for a couple of millenia, and having the features, and probably some of the other genetic traits, of those hardy forebears is something to be proud of more than just having features from easier climates. And it worked fine for, what, twenty years? Poor woman must be a bit body-dysmorphic to make herself change that much. ---
**Author:** ![papergirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/aca169/32.png) [@papergirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/papergirl)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/89 "2014-10-23T11:43:09Z")
She looks better in some of those other links. She does look different, but of course it’s been a few years since Bridget Jones. I think a lot of the problem in the most recent photos maybe be the not-so-becoming hairstyle and color and the very neutral makeup palette. The foundation, shiny finish, and almost-bare look (along with they sparse eyebrows mentioned above) are not doing her any favors. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/90 "2014-10-23T16:32:20Z")
> [@SciFiSam](#): > > \ So the main thing isn’t “women shouldn’t have plastic surgery,” \ I don’t think women (or men) should have plastic surgery - I think they look so much better when they are aging naturally. You _earn_ all those lines and grey hairs! ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2014, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/91 "2014-10-24T05:54:24Z")
Leo LePorte on one of his webcasts last week mentioned that he has a tendency towards that, and insurance actually covers the surgery as medically necessary as the folds can droop so much that it impairs vision. ---
**Author:** ![JKilez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e5b9ba/32.png) [@JKilez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKilez)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027/92 "2015-03-11T21:46:47Z")
Bridget Jones has made an appearance again at Paris fashion week. She looks like she has [reverted halfway](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2989817) to her old appearance. At least she is recognizable now. My question is: did the surgery just settle in, or did she have something else done to “correct” it? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-shit-thats-some-plastic-surgery/702027.md?page=4)