# Holy Svchost Bob, I got a new computer!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 2, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654 "2017-08-02T21:51:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654/21 "2017-08-08T23:13:16Z")
I totally get your frustration. You’ve jumped a long way. The rest of us have had Windows 7 to ease into Windows 10. (Though be happy you aren’t in Windows 8, which was more obtuse.) I would suggest you make a list of these things you know how to do in Windows XP that you can’t figure out in Windows 10. Then try Googling for solutions. If you can’t find one (or can’t figure out how to ask in a way Google likes), then ask here. You need help? We can give help. I do doubt that things are as bad as they seem. You come off as overwhelmed. But there is a lot of familiar stuff in Windows 10, and you can basically ignore most of the new stuff (at least, once you get it set up). You can do it. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654/22 "2017-08-09T20:40:38Z")
> [@Foggy](#): > > God, I’m tired. I don’t know why I thought this was going to be easy. > > I was with XP for 14 years (among one of my longest relationships), I knew how it worked & how to make it do what I wanted. Going from XP to Win10 has been baffling to say the least. This isn’t a “Get off my lawn!” moment, I know change is inevitable, but so much of the changes seem pointless & baffling. I need someone to hold my hand and walk me though this, yes I’m that weak of a person. I’m not a “special snowflake”, if I was I would have melted & dried up decades ago. What would be the opposite of a snowflake? > > God, I’m tired. I have only a couple of pieces of concrete advice, simply because it does sound like you’re so disoriented that you can’t easily isolate what you want fixed. (“Everything” is a valid answer, but not very actionable. :o) On my one Windows 10 installation, I installed [Classic Shell](http://www.classicshell.net/), which gives you back a no-kidding Start Menu. It will feel a lot like XP, although the default settings are more like Windows 7. Still, from XP to 7 wasn’t the agonizing long leap that 10 is, so you may be closer to comfortable with a start menu that resembles something you’ve seen before, and not Windows 10’s abominable mutation of Windows 8. More to the point, its “Classic” setting looks a whole lot like what I remember Windows XP looking like, so it may help a lot. Using Classic Shell allows you to stick to the Desktop environment, more like the standard environment of XP. The alternate environment (the Windows-8 style tile UI) is lurking back there, but will only surface if you choose to use it. Even App Store applications, that live in the 8-style environment (what was often called the Metro UI in the press, after its internal codename), will run on the desktop just fine. They’ll look odd, flat, and cartoonish, but they’ll work. Things that used to live in the Control Panel may have moved to the Control Panel’s Metro-style evil twin, Settings. Moved without a forwarding address, in fact. Until you get familiar with which to use for what settings, I recommend using the search bar built into taskbar to find the correct Control Panel or Settings program. I hate to actually say it, but that stupid searchbar may be the most useful element in the UI. Sometimes the only way to find a desired program is to search for it by (approximate) name. Good luck! When you can isolate specific stumbling block, bring 'em here and we’ll find the way around them. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654/23 "2017-08-10T20:38:10Z")
Apologies for my last post. I am surprisingly easily overwhelmed, plus I was on antibiotics, in addition to my usual psych meds, all of which made me grumpier & whiner than usual. Thank you all for the help you have given. > [@](#): > > I installed Classic Shell, which gives you back a no-kidding Start Menu. I like this! Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![4d3fect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/4d3fect/32/9728_2.png) [@4d3fect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/4d3fect)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654/24 "2017-08-11T00:49:18Z")
If I may, and it’s not been covered already, and you don’t use webcams, JUST UNPLUG IT. (It’s the only way to be sure) ---
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654/25 "2017-08-11T00:56:39Z")
> [@4d3fect](#): > > If I may, and it’s not been covered already, and you don’t use webcams, JUST UNPLUG IT. > (It’s the only way to be sure) It’s built in, nothing to unplug. I put a band-aid over it…🙂 ---
**Author:** ![4d3fect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/4d3fect/32/9728_2.png) [@4d3fect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/4d3fect)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654/26 "2017-08-12T12:09:54Z")
Ah yes, I must have missed that. Carry on! and enjoy your new toy! ---
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654/27 "2017-08-16T20:52:26Z")
HELL-low, It’s me again.:o Which of the following HP programs can I safely remove or disable? > [@](#): > > HP Audio Switch HP Inc. 01/19/17 14.5 MB 1.0.137.0 > HP Documentation HP Inc. 08/07/17 1.0.0.2 > HP ePrint SW HP Inc. 08/10/17 122 MB 5.1.19895 > HP JumpStart HP Inc. 08/07/17 1.2.228.0 > HP JumpStart Bridge HP Inc. 08/14/17 18.6 MB 1.3.0.407 > HP JumpStart Launch HP Inc. 08/06/17 832 KB 1.1.158.0 > HP Orbit HP Inc. 08/15/17 65.7 MB 3.5.171.271 > HP Registration Service HP Inc. 08/06/17 11.0 MB 1.2.8357.5639 > HP Support Assistant HP Inc. 08/06/17 115 MB 8.4.19.3 > HP Support Solutions Framework HP Inc. 08/06/17 13.4 MB 12.7.27.15 > HP Sure Connect HP Inc. 01/19/17 1.0.0.27 > HP System Event Utility HP Inc. 01/19/17 21.7 MB 1.4.14 Orbit, seems to be a sync tool, which I have no need of. Thanks PS: How do I disable Bluetooth? I mean I have dentures. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654/28 "2017-08-16T21:09:21Z")
None of those look particularly onerous or particularly space-consuming, so you might as well leave them all. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654/29 "2017-08-16T21:15:24Z")
And the rest of them. Which of the following programs can I safely remove or disable? I like to get rid of stuff I will never need, and disable things I have no need of now, but might later on. > [@](#): > > App Installer Microsoft Corporation 08/07/17 1.0.10332.0 > **Bonjour Apple Inc. 01/19/17 3.96 MB 3.0.0.10** > Calculator Microsoft Corporation 08/07/17 10.1706.1862.0 > Camera Microsoft Corporation 08/07/17 2017.619.10.0 > > **Energy Star HP Inc. 08/06/17 6.65 MB 1.1.1** > Feedback Hub Microsoft Corporation 08/07/17 1.1704.1603.0 > > Groove Music Microsoft Corporation 08/07/17 10.17062.14111.0 > > iSEEK AnswerWorks English Runtime Vantage Linguistics 08/07/17 9.54 MB 010.000.0101 > > Mail and Calendar Microsoft Corporation 08/07/17 17.8241.41275.0 > Maps Microsoft Corporation 08/08/17 5.1706.2001.0 > **Messaging Microsoft Corporation 08/07/17 3.26.24002.0** > > Microsoft Sticky Notes Microsoft Corporation 08/07/17 1.8.0.0 > > Movies & TV Microsoft Corporation 08/07/17 10.17062.12911.0 > > Paid Wi-Fi & Cellular Microsoft Corporation 08/07/17 2.1706.1934.0 > Paint 3D Microsoft Corporation 08/07/17 2.1707.1017.0 > > People Microsoft Corporation 08/07/17 10.2.1451.0 > Photos Microsoft Corporation 08/08/17 2017.35063.13610.0 > > REALTEK Bluetooth Driver REALTEK Semiconductor Corp. 08/06/17 129 MB 1.0.0.53 > Realtek Card Reader Realtek Semiconductor Corp. 08/14/17 29.2 MB 10.0.14393.31228 > Realtek Ethernet Controller Driver Realtek 08/06/17 8.00 MB 10.10.714.2016 > Realtek High Definition Audio Driver Realtek Semiconductor Corp. 08/14/17 722 MB 6.0.1.8125 > REALTEK Wireless LAN Driver REALTEK Semiconductor Corp. 08/06/17 13.1 MB 1.0.0.75 > > Store Microsoft Corporation 08/07/17 11706.1001.26.0 > Store Purchase App Microsoft Corporation 08/07/17 11706.1707.7010.0 > Tips Microsoft Corporation 08/07/17 5.11.1641.0 > View 3D Microsoft Corporation 08/07/17 1.1705.3039.0 > Voice Recorder Microsoft Corporation 08/07/17 10.1706.1561.0 > Vulkan Run Time Libraries 1.0.17.0 LunarG, Inc. 08/07/17 1.66 MB 1.0.17.0 > **Wallet Microsoft Corporation 08/07/17 1.0.16328.0** I’m especially curious about bolded blue ones. There are 115 processes running right now!😕:eek: ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654/30 "2017-08-16T21:22:49Z")
Leave all the Microsoft and Realtek stuff. You can probably drop Bonjour. Energy Star will be to do with power saving so leave that. ---
**Author:** ![4d3fect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/4d3fect/32/9728_2.png) [@4d3fect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/4d3fect)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654/31 "2017-08-17T01:18:09Z")
I remember my grandpa admonishing my dad one day about some foolhardy car “repair” he’d botched. Wording was something like “Was it working?” -“Well, um, yeah.” “Then why did you fix it?” ---
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654/32 "2017-08-18T17:43:43Z")
How does this CPU compare to others. Do the 4 cores make up for the lower speed? AMD E2-7110 Cores 4 Threads 4 Name AMD E2-7110 Code Name Mullins Package Socket FT3 (BGA769) Technology 28nm Specification AMD E2-7110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics Family F Extended Family 16 Model 0 Extended Model 30 Stepping 1 Revision ML-A1 Instructions MMX (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, AMD 64, NX, VMX, AES, AVX Virtualization Supported, Enabled Hyperthreading Not supported Stock Core Speed 1800 MHz Stock Bus Speed 100 MHz Average Temperature 58 °C Caches L1 Data Cache Size 4 x 32 KBytes L1 Instructions Cache Size 4 x 32 KBytes L2 Unified Cache Size 2048 KBytes Cores Core Speed Multiplier Bus Speed Temperature Threads Core 0 1646.7 MHz x 16.5 99.8 MHz 58 °C APIC ID: 0 Core 1 1646.7 MHz x 16.5 99.8 MHz 58 °C APIC ID: 1 Core 2 1796.4 MHz x 18.0 99.8 MHz 58 °C APIC ID: 2 Core 3 1646.7 MHz x 16.5 99.8 MHz 58 °C APIC ID: 3 How do AMD Processors compare with Intel Processors. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654/33 "2017-08-18T17:55:05Z")
> [@4d3fect](#): > > I remember my grandpa admonishing my dad one day about some foolhardy car “repair” he’d botched. Wording was something like > > “Was it working?” > > -“Well, um, yeah.” > > “Then why did you fix it?” Yeah, I get it. 🙂 It just seems to me to be a waste to have stuff running in the background that I’m not using and may never use. To me it’s like being alone in a big house with all the lights on and electronics & empty appliances running while you sit in your study reading. 😉 If I can remove it or turn it off, I want to. Thank You ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654/34 "2017-08-18T21:03:25Z")
> [@Foggy](#): > > Yeah, I get it. 🙂 > > It just seems to me to be a waste to have stuff running in the background that I’m not using and may never use. To me it’s like being alone in a big house with all the lights on and electronics & empty appliances running while you sit in your study reading. 😉 > > If I can remove it or turn it off, I want to. > > Thank You I feel ya. But the only stuff there that you can remove basically involves knowing how you use your computer and whether you’d ever need that stuff. Personally, I’d get rid of all the HP stuff. I might keep the documentation, but the rest would be useless to me. (I don’t see anything about making a recovery disk: do they not provide that anymore? That’s another program I’d keep). As for your apps, I don’t print anything or use iTunes, so I’d get rid of Bonjour. I’m also not going to be using Mail, Maps, Messaging, or People, for sure. I have a Google account, and it does everything those apps do. The rest I’d leave alone, including the Energy Star from HP, which could be a nice (it’s a power plan). But I just don’t know if you would really want to do this. You might like what some of the HP programs offer. You might want to try those apps I mentioned. You may use iTunes. So I can’t really tell you. As someone getting overwhelmed, I would basically say to leave it alone, and just don’t use what you don’t like. What I will specifcally say that no one should get rid of App installer, anything Store or REALTECH related, or Vulkan. You would just be crippling your PC. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654/35 "2017-08-18T21:17:41Z")
As for your CPU question: sorta. Having more cores does make things a lot better for normal computing tasks. Only gamers or other highly CPU intensive app people run into single core performance problems, usually. However, compared to your Windows XP computer, the bigger difference is probably just the CPU architecture. CPUs have just gotten a lot more efficient, meaning they can do more at lower clock speeds. That’s why we largely don’t compare gigahertz directly anymore. As for AMD vs. Intel: what you have is a CPU designed to be low power and low heat, and to be able to be used on smaller hardware. That’s one of the tradeoffs of small form factor computers like the all-in-one form factor for your computer. That said, for what you use your computer for, it’s fine. I actually don’t own any computer that has a CPU that’s any better than that one. And I probably do more CPU-related stuff than you do. The days of needing anything near a top of the line CPU is long gone. What does that have to do with AMD vs. Intel? AMD, until recently, had basically decided to specialize in those types of CPUs, because they found that people had enough raw power. They decided to focus on making their CPUs run cooler/quieter and use less power. ---
**Author:** ![4d3fect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/4d3fect/32/9728_2.png) [@4d3fect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/4d3fect)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654/36 "2017-08-19T02:16:37Z")
> [@Foggy](#): > > Yeah, I get it. 🙂 > > It just seems to me to be a waste to have stuff running in the background that I’m not using and may never use. To me it’s like being alone in a big house with all the lights on and electronics & empty appliances running while you sit in your study reading. 😉 > > If I can remove it or turn it off, I want to. > > Thank You Sorry, didn’t mean to be rude. My experience with computers (not being much technically inclined) has been negative regarding removing what I’d thought were unnecessary programs. At this point, I find if it doesn’t continually/repeatedly crash (reliable) and doesn’t heat up too much, I"m happy. And I try to keep the crapware to a minimum. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654/37 "2017-08-19T02:29:27Z")
I’m less overwhelmed now. I mainly use my computer for web surfing, watching videos, porn cats, and playing games. I don’t use Apple products, so I’ve removed Bonjour. I have also removed nearly all apps, except for App installer & the Store. I’ve disable Bluethoot, print spooler, Windows Image Acquisition, and a few others that I know I won’t use. Thank You, **BigT**. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654/38 "2017-08-19T02:37:03Z")
> [@4d3fect](#): > > Sorry, didn’t mean to be rude. You weren’t. And what you said is true, “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”. I don’t always listen though.🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654/39 "2017-08-19T03:13:12Z")
You should leave the print spooler enabled. It may be needed if you create a PDF or similar. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654/40 "2017-08-19T03:17:11Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > You should leave the print spooler enabled. It may be needed if you create a PDF or similar. Even though I don’t have a printer? 😕 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/holy-svchost-bob-i-got-a-new-computer/792654.md?page=3)