# Home invasion in Texas

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-invasion-in-texas/828190>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 22, 2019, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-invasion-in-texas/828190 "2019-01-22T11:43:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-invasion-in-texas/828190/1 "2019-01-22T11:43:44Z")

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Wow. An armed homeowner saw off 5 attackers, [killing three and wounding two](https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-homeowner-shoots-kills-3-men-and-injures-2-during-home-invasion-officials-say).

That’s some good shooting.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-invasion-in-texas/828190/2 "2019-01-22T13:23:21Z")

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The Fox News comments seem to think this is drug/gang related. Is that your thought as well?

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**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-invasion-in-texas/828190/3 "2019-01-22T13:41:07Z")

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Sounds like the homeowner was ready for just such an attack. To accurately shoot 5 people requires alot of skill.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-invasion-in-texas/828190/4 "2019-01-22T13:58:47Z")

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The article says that the homeowner fired “dozens of shots”. That doesn’t suggest a great deal of skill.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-invasion-in-texas/828190/5 "2019-01-22T14:08:19Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Wow. An armed homeowner saw off 5 attackers…

Typo, or is there a use of “saw off” I should know?

All I can think of is NWA:  
\*  
“When I’m called off  
I got a sawed-off  
Squeeze the trigger and  
bodies are hauled off”\*

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-invasion-in-texas/828190/6 "2019-01-22T14:12:24Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Typo, or is there a use of “saw off” I should know?
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> All I can think of is NWA:  
> \*  
> “When I’m called off  
> I got a sawed-off  
> Squeeze the trigger and  
> bodies are hauled off”\*

Really???

To “see someone off” is such a ridiculously common expression I can’t even grasp what your problem is here.

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**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-invasion-in-texas/828190/7 "2019-01-22T14:13:14Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Typo, or is there a use of “saw off” I should know?
> 
> All I can think of is NWA:  
> \*  
> “When I’m called off  
> I got a sawed-off  
> Squeeze the trigger and  
> bodies are hauled off”\*

To see someone off. Joe saw Jane off at the station. Let me put on a coat and I’ll see you off.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-invasion-in-texas/828190/8 "2019-01-22T14:21:47Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> Sounds like the homeowner was ready for just such an attack. To accurately shoot 5 people requires alot of skill.

5 armed intruders against one unsuspecting homeowners is such ridiculously poor odds, he’s either the luckiest innocent in the world or, as you say, he was expecting this.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-invasion-in-texas/828190/9 "2019-01-22T14:28:56Z")

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[This story](https://www.theepochtimes.com/texas-homeowner-shoots-5-men-during-home-invasion-police_2773876.htmlhttps://www.theepochtimes.com/texas-homeowner-shoots-5-men-during-home-invasion-police_2773876.html) says he had an AK-47.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-invasion-in-texas/828190/10 "2019-01-22T15:46:08Z")

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I’m confident this will get counted among “mass shootings”.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-invasion-in-texas/828190/11 "2019-01-22T18:22:21Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> The Fox News comments seem to think this is drug/gang related. Is that your thought as well?

I would not argue against you.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-invasion-in-texas/828190/12 "2019-01-22T18:42:41Z")

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> [@John\_Bredin](#):
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> To see someone off. Joe saw Jane off at the station. Let me put on a coat and I’ll see you off.

Well, it made me pause too. I associate “saw off” with some sort of friendly parting of ways.

“fought off”, "fended off " but that wording sounds like he kissed them goodbye as well as shot them dead.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-invasion-in-texas/828190/13 "2019-01-22T18:46:26Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> [This story](https://www.theepochtimes.com/texas-homeowner-shoots-5-men-during-home-invasion-police_2773876.htmlhttps://www.theepochtimes.com/texas-homeowner-shoots-5-men-during-home-invasion-police_2773876.html) says he had an AK-47.

This link isn’t working.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-invasion-in-texas/828190/14 "2019-01-22T18:47:04Z")

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I’ve read “saw off” in describing the results of sports contests as well. For example, something like ‘the Patriots saw off the Chiefs’. Nothing particularly friendly about that.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-invasion-in-texas/828190/15 "2019-01-22T18:50:34Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> This link isn’t working.

Fixed link:

> **[Texas Homeowner Shoots 5 Men During Home Invasion: Police](https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/texas-homeowner-shoots-5-men-during-home-invasion-police-2773876)**

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-invasion-in-texas/828190/16 "2019-01-22T18:54:31Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> Fixed link:
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> [Texas Homeowner Shoots 5 Men During Home Invasion: Police | The Epoch Times](https://www.theepochtimes.com/texas-homeowner-shoots-5-men-during-home-invasion-police_2773876.html)

Does the AK-47 in that file photo have a bump stock? :eek:

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-invasion-in-texas/828190/17 "2019-01-22T18:54:45Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Wow. An armed homeowner saw off 5 attackers, [killing three and wounding two](https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-homeowner-shoots-kills-3-men-and-injures-2-during-home-invasion-officials-say).
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> That’s some good shooting.

_FOR OVER 30 YEARS, DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS HAS CHANNELED TEXAS-SIZED STATE PRIDE TO REMIND TEXANS TO KEEP TRASH OFF OUR ROADS._

> **[History - Don't Mess With Texas](http://www.dontmesswithtexas.org/about/history/)**
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> FOR OVER 35 YEARS, DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS HAS CHANNELED TEXAS-SIZED STATE PRIDE TO REMIND TEXANS TO KEEP TRASH OFF OUR ROADS. Inspired by true Texas pride, we go to great lengths to keep our state litter-free with award-winning ads, statewide road...

The slogan also applies to dirtbag home invaders.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-invasion-in-texas/828190/18 "2019-01-22T18:56:45Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Another neighbor told KHOU that he was on his porch with his baby when he saw the two men show up with large rifles. The neighbor went inside his house to take cover.
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> He said that the homeowner is known in the neighborhood as “Flaco.”
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> A group of women who were crying showed up near the house where the shooting happened and said they are related to the men who were shot. They declined to provide further details.
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> Officials told KTRK that the homeowner shot the men in self-defense using a fully-loaded AK-47, an assault rifle.
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> The 20-year-old homeowner said that the men, wearing ski masks, approached his house and busted inside, demanding cash, forcing him to defend himself.
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> A witness said that he saw two men in front of the home lying on the ground. “I heard around five or six gunshots. I’m pretty sure there were more before that,” he said.

In Texas, that’s a good shoot all day, every day. Flaco is going to walk, even though I have no difficulty imagining he might not be a saint himself.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-invasion-in-texas/828190/19 "2019-01-22T18:59:15Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> In Texas, that’s a good shoot all day, every day. Flaco is going to walk, even though I have no difficulty imagining he might not be a saint himself.

One of the few times a Hispanic gang member will be described in conservative media as a “homeowner.” Gotta love it.

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-invasion-in-texas/828190/20 "2019-01-22T19:09:09Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> One of the few times a Hispanic gang member will be described in conservative media as a “homeowner.” Gotta love it.

Yep, gotta push the narrative.

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