# Homeland--New Showtime Series (No Spoilers in OP) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 7, 2011, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863 "2011-10-07T03:27:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Meltdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Meltdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meltdown)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863/41 "2011-11-15T15:28:20Z")
It’s been a couple of days – I’m not going to use spoiler tags for what happened in Sunday’s episode. At first I was kind of annoyed that she made the mistake of revealing the type of tea he drank. I thought it was out of character for her to screw up like that. But I forgave the show that once I saw the scene where she questioned him. Electrifying. “They think I’m working for Al Qaeda?” “ **I** think you’re working for Al Qaeda.” ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863/42 "2011-11-15T16:19:53Z")
Electrifying, for sure. How refreshing that neither one of them stonewalled. Carrie didn’t try to keep up a pretense and Brody answered her questions without the standard “How dare you question me.” I think Carrie’s slipup on the Yorkshire Gold tea was because she felt comfortable with him, as if she came by her knowledge honestly instead of through subterfuge. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863/43 "2011-11-15T18:06:12Z")
Once she knows what his dick looks like, surely his preference of tea isn’t overly private. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863/44 "2011-11-15T18:17:23Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Once she knows what his dick looks like, surely his preference of tea isn’t overly private. 😕 But she wasn’t supposed to know that. She only knew because his house was bugged. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863/45 "2011-11-15T18:21:43Z")
Sorry, maybe I shouldn’t have said “looks” and instead said “feels”. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![MikeG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikeg/32/4329_2.png) [@MikeG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeG)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863/46 "2011-11-15T20:02:02Z")
I am wondering why Carrie didn’t immediately tell Brody about the big twist. That would have stopped him in his tracks I think. ---
**Author:** ![Drum\_God](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drum_god/32/44_2.png) [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863/47 "2011-11-15T20:03:01Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > I thought tonight’s episode was brilliant. I totally did not see the twist coming, which is all I will say in case others haven’t seen it yet. You know, I actually didn’t like the twist at all. It relies on information that the viewer did not have. To me, that’s cheating. A good twist is something where the information required has been there all along and the audience just did not connect the pieces. This twist, however, relies on evidence that has been presented as true turning out to be false. It made me feel lied to rather than brilliantly misdirected. ---
**Author:** ![MikeG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikeg/32/4329_2.png) [@MikeG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeG)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863/48 "2011-11-15T20:10:27Z")
I disagree. New facts are not a bad thing, it seems stifling to suggest otherwise. As for us being lied to, it’s instead a big point that the characters were telling the truth…as they knew it! They were the ones lied to and how they deal with that will be interesting to watch. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863/49 "2011-11-15T20:40:27Z")
> [@MikeG](#): > > I am wondering why Carrie didn’t immediately tell Brody about the big twist. That would have stopped him in his tracks I think. I had that same thought as she was running toward his car. I thought she’d tell him, and ask for his help finding the guy. And obviously, as the costar of the show, he will get that job in some way or another. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863/50 "2011-11-16T01:12:56Z")
I think that’s classified information that she can’t just go blurting out to him. ---
**Author:** ![MikeG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikeg/32/4329_2.png) [@MikeG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeG)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863/51 "2011-11-16T04:41:10Z")
I thought that for a second as well, then I realized she gave him classified info already, by telling him about her source and his confession. Also the fact that he was the subject of an investigation is classified. All the times he was brought in were under innocent sounding pretexts. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863/52 "2011-11-16T04:49:08Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > I think that’s classified information that she can’t just go blurting out to him. Yeah, well, she’s off her meds. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863/53 "2011-11-16T05:33:41Z")
Maybe she still doesn’t trust him. After all, Brody had told her he killed Walker. She didn’t have time to think it through, connect the dots. There are so many dots! ---
**Author:** ![zombywoof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/9e8a1a/32.png) [@zombywoof](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zombywoof)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863/54 "2011-11-22T03:13:13Z")
A little detail from the last episode I enjoyed - didn’t the congressman disgraced for sexting named “Dick Johnson” look a lot like Anthony “Weiner”? ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863/55 "2011-11-22T03:29:33Z")
Yes, on purpose I think. That gave me quite a chuckle. ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863/56 "2011-11-23T17:55:19Z")
So at the end of this episode, did Brody admit to working with the terrorists? I thought he said something to the effect that “I’m not working with you anymore…” ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863/57 "2011-11-23T21:18:58Z")
Yes, though just the fact that Brody was in the terrorist’s home was proof that he was turned after all. Whether or not he stays turned remains to be seen. ---
**Author:** ![wonderlust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonderlust/32/7237_2.png) [@wonderlust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonderlust)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863/58 "2011-11-24T05:16:30Z")
I love this series! I chucked Dexter, and now Homeland is my favorite show this year. ---
**Author:** ![Naxos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@Naxos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Naxos)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863/59 "2011-11-24T05:30:02Z")
> [@wonderlust](#): > > I love this series! I chucked Dexter, and now Homeland is my favorite show this year. I like it too. Nothing like UK’s Spooks, but Homeland comes close. The sad part is that the script is getting sloppy and too “directed” to show characters as they “should” behave. Sad. Still want to see what happens though. It’s a good show. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863/60 "2011-11-29T16:32:47Z")
I wonder if we should have episode threads. This show is really interesting and has almost no discussion, and shows where there’s almost nothing to talk about get 5 pages. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-new-showtime-series-no-spoilers-in-op/598863.md?page=4)