# "Homeland Security", "Patriot Act"; Find These Phrases Orwellian/Huxley Repulsiv

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-security-patriot-act-find-these-phrases-orwellian-huxley-repulsiv/197784>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 26, 2003, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-security-patriot-act-find-these-phrases-orwellian-huxley-repulsiv/197784 "2003-08-26T17:04:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-security-patriot-act-find-these-phrases-orwellian-huxley-repulsiv/197784/61 "2003-09-01T06:38:06Z")

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Jesus, **Brutus** , “Nambla?” “Pea brains?” Is that the best you can do?  
BTW, Bob Barr opposed the Patriots Act. He’s a right wing nutjob, isn’t he? I wonder why he opposed it?

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-security-patriot-act-find-these-phrases-orwellian-huxley-repulsiv/197784/62 "2003-09-01T06:49:00Z")

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> _Originally posted by BoringDad_  
> \*\*Nah, at those we are too busy talking about the young boy your Dad is dating.
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> Heh. This Pit thing can be fun!  
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That’s just the syphilis talking, I bet.

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> \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \*  
> \*\*Jesus, **Brutus** , “Nambla?” “Pea brains?” Is that the best you can do?  
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Hardly, but it is the best that you deserve.

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> BTW, Bob Barr opposed the Patriots Act. He’s a right wing nutjob, isn’t he? I wonder why he opposed it? \*\*

You said it yourself: Nutjob. You and Barr should share tin-foil hat decoration tips!

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**Author:** ![spanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@spanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spanna)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-security-patriot-act-find-these-phrases-orwellian-huxley-repulsiv/197784/63 "2003-09-01T07:55:04Z")

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Going back to the OP

If you think you have Orwellian problems, looks like we in the UK are going to get a “Ministry for Truth”

cite: [http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=438772](http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=438772)

Maybe its just me, but shouldn’t we presume that Government always tells us the truth?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_Wright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Steve\_Wright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_Wright)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-security-patriot-act-find-these-phrases-orwellian-huxley-repulsiv/197784/64 "2003-09-01T12:28:02Z")

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The Department of Truth. Hmm…

I thought of jumping in and making a crack about Alastair Campbell being on the hunt for a new job, and how that would suit him. Then I read the article, and found out this is the brainchild of Peter Mandelson. It worries me when real life starts pre-empting my bad jokes…

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**Author:** ![Rashak\_Mani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@Rashak\_Mani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rashak_Mani)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homeland-security-patriot-act-find-these-phrases-orwellian-huxley-repulsiv/197784/65 "2003-09-01T18:57:47Z")

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Whats next ? “Lebensraum” act ? How would you translate that ?

Scary is how the CIA, FBI, NSA, ETc… etc… all kind of work separately and compete by not sharing info. Probably easier for the FBI to get good intelligence from foreign agencias than the CIA…

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