Homeland Security plans to buy 1 Billion bullets

Obviously because they cause the earthquakes and hurricanes.

Why to they want to buy in “bulk” - as in a 20-year Iraq sized war, how many terrorists have they shot in the past 10 years?

My point was the US government is largely staffed by “The People” who aren’t suddenly going to declare war against the rest of the people. At least not such that they would need a billion bullets.

I’m not an expert, but as I recall ammunition made for sniping among other things is made with extra precision. Very carefully measured amounts of propellant, that sort of thing. And they sometimes use various bullets designed to not penetrate past the target; as an example I recall reading about bullets made of fused metal powder that upon impact fragments back to powder and stops inside the target (and doesn’t ricochet either if it hits a wall). You don’t want to kill the hostage along with the hostage-taker, after all.

More money to ammo makers, but less for food stamps. Got it.

All part of Obama’s War on Guns.

They shoot alot of paper targets to prepare for shooting the one terrorist accurately - you can’t practice with your finger and thumb like you did in grade school.

You lock in pricing as well as supply by buying in bulk - they are trying to get the companies to manufacture and have an assured source - they are not walkng down to the local wal-mart and picking up some rounds.

(keep in mind that this bulk is not “here it is” - its purchased over 5 years in increments, etc.

It always amuses me that these types of stories mention hollow points and how they are forbidden for use in war as if it is evidence of something. What it’s evidence of isn’t the government preparing for war with the citizenry using diabolical, forbidden bullets. It’s evidence that they are being ordered for use by law enforcement agencies. The use of hollow points in warfare is forbidden by the Hague Convention 1899, Laws of War :
Declaration on the Use of Bullets Which Expand or Flatten Easily in the Human Body; July 29, 1899
which forbade the use of dumdums on the grounds that they caused inhumane wounds. The use of hollow points by law enforcement, and by the military for counter-terrorist units has always been perfectly legal and in fact is also preferable for law enforcement use as hollow points expend most of their energy mushrooming on impact, minimizing the risk of the bullet penetrating the suspect, or if it does, having enough energy left to still be extremely dangerous if it proceeds to hit an innocent bystander or hostage.

Ironically, modern military small arms rounds tend to yaw and fragment on impact, producing wounds every bit as inhumane as those caused by dumdums.

Right. So how many terrorists have they shot in 10 years?

Who says they’re shooting terrorists? The link to the NRA site explains that it is for agencies with law enforcement duties plus guards for buildings. They’re also not buying a “20 year Iraq war” amount. It’s enough ammunition for five years.

Apparently the Secret Service and Coast Guard, both part of DHS, either buy their ammunition separately or aren’t worth mentioning with the above agencies.

initial training yes, recurrent training, no. That average seems high.

That’s only 17 rounds per week. One magazine worth(or a bit more).

I’m not aware of any agency that practices weekly.

Magiver is right: the state of Indiana is clearly planning a right wing coup and is already stockpiling ammunition to carry it out.

The only way the people can defend themselves from this aggression into their private lives is by buying health care.

How often do they practice? And when they do practice, how many clips do they use?

To get nit-picky, “magazine” not “clip”.

I don’t know about their policies but 17 rounds is not a solid practice session. If they are training once every 4 weeks, the 68 round average is closer to a good single session for most people I know (~50 to 100 monthly).

Must be years worth, delivered in small lots, over time.

Even if it is an excessive number of bullets, surely the most rational concern is that these departments are over-funded. Or, at worst, that somebody in the procurement department is taking kick backs from ammunition manufacturers.

Or more likely, both.

More panic-mongering by people who can’t do math.

When I was still working we qualified 4 times a year. Minimally, a 60 round qualification course to keep the lawyers/politicians/bureaucrats happy (that type of shooting has nothing all at to do with combat shooting) plus at least a couple of hundred rounds of combat/tactical shooting. So, that’s 1000+ rounds per year. Nothing unusual or sinister about that.