# Homo X- another name

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homo-x-another-name/1019318>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 8, 2025, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homo-x-another-name/1019318 "2025-06-08T03:34:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![ric62](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@ric62](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ric62)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homo-x-another-name/1019318/1 "2025-06-08T03:34:46Z")

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I jokingly told someone recently the it should not be Homo Sapien - Intelligent Ape, but instead should be Should Have Know Better Ape. But what would that be? Homo?

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homo-x-another-name/1019318/2 "2025-06-08T04:07:06Z")

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FWIW, Homo means man; not ape.

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homo-x-another-name/1019318/3 "2025-06-08T04:11:20Z")

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Sapiens Beta Edition

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homo-x-another-name/1019318/4 "2025-06-08T06:50:50Z")

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To be further pedantic, “homo sapiens sapiens” means “the man who thinks about thinking,” to reflect our (supposedly) unique self awareness.

Which suggests the alternative might be the Latin for “the man who only thinks he’s thinking,” or some such.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homo-x-another-name/1019318/5 "2025-06-08T06:55:41Z")

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_Homu Stultus_ - “stupid man”

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homo-x-another-name/1019318/6 "2025-06-08T07:31:04Z")

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Homo-_oops my bad_

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**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homo-x-another-name/1019318/7 "2025-06-08T07:51:31Z")

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You could say Homo sophomori

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homo-x-another-name/1019318/8 "2025-06-08T08:07:13Z")

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I have no idea if ChatGPT gets its Latin right:

> Got it! You’re looking for a Latin binomial in the format **\_Homo \_\_\_** that conveys the meaning “man who should have known better.”
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> Here are a few options, depending on the tone you want (serious, satirical, etc.):
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> * * *
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> ### 🔹 **Best All-Around Suggestion:**
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> _ **Homo debiliscientia** _
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> > _“Man of failing knowledge”_ or _“man lacking the wisdom he ought to have had.”_
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> - _ **debilis** _ = weak
> - _ **scientia** _ = knowledge
> - Implies a being who should have known, but didn’t due to weakness or failure of insight.
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> * * *
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> ### 🔹 **Ironic/Playful:**
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> _ **Homo oportebatscire** _
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> > _“Man who ought to have known”_
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> - Based on _oportebat scīre_ = “ought to have known.”
> - This is slightly bastardized Latin for the sake of humor and binomial form, but reads well as mock taxonomy.
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> * * *
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> ### 🔹 **Literal Latin (serious tone):**
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> _ **Homo debuitnosse** _
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> > _“Man who should have known”_
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> - From _debuit nosse_ (perfect of _debere_ + know)
> - Readable by Latin scholars and still fits taxonomic naming style.
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> * * *
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> ### 🔹 **Satirical/Modern Feel:**
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> _ **Homo ignarusculpabilis** _
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> > _“Ignorant but blameworthy man”_
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> - _ **ignarus** _ = unaware, ignorant
> - _ **culpabilis** _ = blameworthy
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> * * *
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> Would you like it to sound more ancient/academic or more comic and biting, like a scientific name in a satirical essay or cartoon?

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homo-x-another-name/1019318/9 "2025-06-08T09:02:37Z")

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How about _homo superedax_ - “over greedy”

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homo-x-another-name/1019318/10 "2025-06-08T09:13:58Z")

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_Homo superbia_, Arrogant man  
_Homo insolentia_, Reckless man

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homo-x-another-name/1019318/11 "2025-06-08T13:46:42Z")

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_Homo marginalis_ - Just barely smart enough to be sapient. Usually … would you believe … sometimes?

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**Author:** ![ric62](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@ric62](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ric62)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homo-x-another-name/1019318/12 "2025-06-08T23:07:19Z")

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I realized that about an hour after I walked away from my computer. Should have known to double check what I was writing.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homo-x-another-name/1019318/13 "2025-06-09T13:23:54Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> FWIW, Homo means man; not ape.

This might be a quibble …

Not sure how much it means “man” / “human”. In Latin _homo_ means “alike” or “same as”. In other words, signifying the genus of critters like us. Yes, who are themselves called humans.

So maybe a quibble between “what it means” and “what it stands for”?

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homo-x-another-name/1019318/14 "2025-06-09T13:30:38Z")

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_Homo_ = “same” is Greek. _Homo_ = “man” is Latin.

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homo-x-another-name/1019318/15 "2025-06-09T13:43:03Z")

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Wow. TIL. Thank you.

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homo-x-another-name/1019318/16 "2025-06-09T15:43:19Z")

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_Hombre!_ I thought it was obvious 😃

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homo-x-another-name/1019318/17 "2025-06-09T16:07:07Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> To be further pedantic, “homo sapiens sapiens” means “the man who thinks about thinking,” to reflect our (supposedly) unique self awareness.

The context I’ve mainly seen that used was when it was popular to consider Neandertals a subspecies of _Sapiens_.

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homo-x-another-name/1019318/18 "2025-06-09T16:16:54Z")

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Homo bozo: Earth’s final punchline

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homo-x-another-name/1019318/19 "2025-06-09T16:28:37Z")

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Homer Stupidus (Stultis)  
“D’oh!”

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homo-x-another-name/1019318/20 "2025-06-09T16:29:52Z")

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Homo Simpson

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