# Homophobia in Great Debates - Officially endorsed by SDMB moderators?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-in-great-debates-officially-endorsed-by-sdmb-moderators/446632>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 24, 2008, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-in-great-debates-officially-endorsed-by-sdmb-moderators/446632 "2008-04-24T01:24:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-in-great-debates-officially-endorsed-by-sdmb-moderators/446632/61 "2008-04-24T17:02:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Malacandra]  
Since when were we discussing Mancunians?  
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Dagnabbit! sussed out 😛

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**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-in-great-debates-officially-endorsed-by-sdmb-moderators/446632/62 "2008-04-24T17:04:40Z")

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[QUOTE=5-4-Fighting]  
Am I being pitted or not?\*

On the surface, 2.5 actually has a point. However, as I alluded to, even though the very thread that inspired this rant touched on current levels of acceptance, I felt it was not up to me decide for the many clearly open-minded members here at the Dope was acceptable to other who might see what they’ve clicked on and who have power over that.

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Would you have included the same warning if it was a heterosexual website with the same content?

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-in-great-debates-officially-endorsed-by-sdmb-moderators/446632/63 "2008-04-24T17:06:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun]  
No. My ire is directed at the moderating of the the thread.  
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Damn!

A clearer iteration of what I posted above:

"_On the surface_, **2.5** actually has a point. Why should there be warnings about non-sexual links to gay-themed webpages?

However, as I alluded to previously, even though the very thread that inspired this rant was partially a discussion about current levels of acceptance, I felt it was not up to me to decide for the many clearly open-minded members here at the Dope what was acceptable to _non-accepting others_ who might see what they’ve clicked on and who have power over that.

Would that (and that’s a big “would,” larger than 2.5 inches) our OP had carefully read and thought through everything connected with that warning, he might have recognized that.

Or, given the history, perhaps not.

- At least I have my toaster."

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-in-great-debates-officially-endorsed-by-sdmb-moderators/446632/64 "2008-04-24T17:08:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun]  
Would you have included the same warning if it was a heterosexual website with the same content?  
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If a link in a thread not about women’s jumblies led to a site with Victoria’s Secret ads, I should think it’d be only proper.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-in-great-debates-officially-endorsed-by-sdmb-moderators/446632/65 "2008-04-24T17:10:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun]  
Would you have included the same warning if it was a heterosexual website with the same content?  
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No, because I live in the real world and understand that, in a heteronormative society, those who needed to be concerned about that and had two brain cells _would have already been given ample opportunity_ to figure out where their PTB stood.

I’m not saying the situation as it stands is right but I do understand that double standards exist right now and wanted to give members of the Dope who were reading along the chance to make up their own minds on which side of the standard they stood, given their personal constraints, about which I knew nothing.

Consideration goes both ways.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-in-great-debates-officially-endorsed-by-sdmb-moderators/446632/66 "2008-04-24T17:11:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun]  
Would you have included the same warning if it was a heterosexual website with the same content?  
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I can’t speak for 5-4-Fighting, but I would have. A link that has advertising with half or more naked people certainly would qualify as NSFW in most offices.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-in-great-debates-officially-endorsed-by-sdmb-moderators/446632/67 "2008-04-24T17:19:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Happy Scrappy Hero Pup]  
Where’s your dog in this fight?  
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Not to be the one agreeing with **2.5"** (although I find him a lot less irritating than everyone else seems to) but he doesn’t have to be gay to call someone out for being a bigot or whatever.

Not that I find his outrage any more reasonable than the rest of you, but your question shouldn’t be asked, in general.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-in-great-debates-officially-endorsed-by-sdmb-moderators/446632/68 "2008-04-24T17:33:20Z")

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IIRC correctly, this is the guy who once stated he’d dump his SO if he/she became paralyzed.

But _we’re_ the insensitive ones.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-in-great-debates-officially-endorsed-by-sdmb-moderators/446632/69 "2008-04-24T17:35:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Guinastasia]  
IIRC correctly, this is the guy who once stated he’d dump his SO if he/she became paralyzed.

But _we’re_ the insensitive ones.  
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Considering that there are plenty of women who leave their husbands because they can’t maintain an erection (and presumably plenty of men who leave for similar reasons) I can’t really fault him for that.

It’s pretty hard to judge someone for that unless your SO has been paralyzed, heaven forbid.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-in-great-debates-officially-endorsed-by-sdmb-moderators/446632/70 "2008-04-24T17:45:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright]  
Not to be the one agreeing with **2.5"** (although I find him a lot less irritating than everyone else seems to) but he doesn’t have to be gay to call someone out for being a bigot or whatever.

Not that I find his outrage any more reasonable than the rest of you, but your question shouldn’t be asked, in general.  
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There are plenty of pit threads started by someone with no stake in the issue. The abundance of RO threads are prime examples.

However, he is pitting something and calling it homophobia. He is pitting something that was done by a gay doper and merely clarified by a mod. Even if there was actual homophobia there…we have plenty of gay people here who have no problem calling other dopers out on it. So, not only is he jumping in to something that doesn’t concern him, but he is completely wrong about the basis of this thread.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-in-great-debates-officially-endorsed-by-sdmb-moderators/446632/71 "2008-04-24T17:45:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright]  
Considering that there are plenty of women who leave their husbands because they can’t maintain an erection (and presumably plenty of men who leave for similar reasons) I can’t really fault him for that.  
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I’m fortunate to have married an understanding woman—as I’ve aged, I’ve noticed an increasing difficulty maintaining my erection. Sometimes it goes down for an hour or two a day.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-in-great-debates-officially-endorsed-by-sdmb-moderators/446632/72 "2008-04-24T17:59:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright]  
Considering that there are plenty of women who leave their husbands because they can’t maintain an erection (and presumably plenty of men who leave for similar reasons) I can’t really fault him for that.

It’s pretty hard to judge someone for that unless your SO has been paralyzed, heaven forbid.  
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Maybe so. But I think it’s more the history of the OP, who tends to be rather shallow about certain things, complaing about homophobia being endorsed on THIS board, of all places.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-in-great-debates-officially-endorsed-by-sdmb-moderators/446632/73 "2008-04-24T18:00:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip]  
I’m fortunate to have married an understanding woman—as I’ve aged, I’ve noticed an increasing difficulty maintaining my erection. Sometimes it goes down for an hour or two a day.  
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I hear it gets worse after puberty 😉

(well played)

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-in-great-debates-officially-endorsed-by-sdmb-moderators/446632/74 "2008-04-24T18:10:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip]  
I’m fortunate to have married an understanding woman—as I’ve aged, I’ve noticed an increasing difficulty maintaining my erection. Sometimes it goes down for an hour or two a day.  
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My you are a lucky soul.

Sometimes mine gets hard, why only last February…

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-in-great-debates-officially-endorsed-by-sdmb-moderators/446632/75 "2008-04-24T18:15:58Z")

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[Should we tax fat people?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=452096)

[Why can’t you say fat people are disgusting?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=452193)

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-in-great-debates-officially-endorsed-by-sdmb-moderators/446632/76 "2008-04-24T18:19:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Guinastasia]  
[Should we tax fat people?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=452096)

[Why can’t you say fat people are disgusting?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=452193)  
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Point taken.

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**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-in-great-debates-officially-endorsed-by-sdmb-moderators/446632/77 "2008-04-24T18:25:10Z")

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Damn it, I’m always late to these things. I thought we were Homophoneaphobic.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-in-great-debates-officially-endorsed-by-sdmb-moderators/446632/78 "2008-04-24T18:27:41Z")

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I started a [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=465329) related to this is Great Debates.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-in-great-debates-officially-endorsed-by-sdmb-moderators/446632/79 "2008-04-24T18:47:14Z")

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[QUOTE=FarmerChick]  
I called him an [idiot](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9724557&postcount=18) first! But since you are a card carrying hip swishing etc etc, I am willing to share **firsties** with ya 😛  
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I so read that as “fisties” and thought that an admirable compromise. 😛🆒

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-in-great-debates-officially-endorsed-by-sdmb-moderators/446632/80 "2008-04-24T18:56:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Cluricaun]  
Damn it, I’m always late to these things. I thought we were Homophoneaphobic.  
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Well, maybe _ewe_ are …

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