# Homophobia on the Dope **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [April 29, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855 "2020-04-29T22:43:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855/21 "2020-04-30T08:56:41Z")
FWIW, the OP of the thread identifies as gay. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855/22 "2020-04-30T09:35:11Z")
Yeah, not seeing a ton of homophobia in there. Most people are talking about the names of actual gay bars, not proposing their own. ---
**Author:** ![road\_lobo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@road\_lobo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/road_lobo)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855/23 "2020-04-30T11:06:55Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > No, I’m saying that getting all bent out of shape over a silly thread making joke names about gay bars is a woke left wing thing. It seems more like an internalized homophobia and PTSD thing. These people and/or their peers have been brutally assaulted and murdered, as well as vilified during the AIDS crisis, while witnessing scores of their friends dying from opportunistic diseases. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855/24 "2020-04-30T11:14:52Z")
Just give us a list of things people are not allowed to joke about and be done with it. ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855/25 "2020-04-30T11:38:34Z")
Several Qs about the original topic. 1. Is there such a thing as a “gay bar”? 2. What would motivate a clientele to go there? 3. Should a bar name be helpful for that clientele to choose a bar? 4. Does humor have a place in marketing cleverness? ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855/26 "2020-04-30T11:46:17Z")
> [@jtur88](#): > > Several Qs about the original topic. > > 1. Is there such a thing as a “gay bar”? > 2. What would motivate a clientele to go there? > 3. Should a bar name be helpful for that clientele to choose a bar? > 4. Does humor have a place in marketing cleverness? Are you for real? 1. Yes 2. To be around other gay people 3. Yes 4. Yes ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855/27 "2020-04-30T11:55:18Z")
Meh… in my own experience, being a somewhat woke cis dude, gay guys are fond of outrageously non-PC humor that occasionally makes me cringe, especially the sexual double-entendre. But we’d do well to remember that lesbians generally don’t go in for the juvenile stuff, and straight people probably shouldn’t instigate it at all. So, I apologize for my contribution, even though though my gay friend who represents all gay men said it was very funny and he would definitely patronize a bar called the Head Office. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855/28 "2020-04-30T12:24:54Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > I haven’t participated in the thread, but I can figure out what sort of names were proposed. What’s wrong with seeing that thread title, figuring out fairly quickly that you won’t like it, and then go participate in one of the other threads? Why do you want the board to ban this? > > I’m not going to rehash my older threads, but this board has gone to “you can talk about anything” to a whole list of things that now you cannot talk about. The open nature of the board was one of the things that drew me to it in the first place. I don’t believe it is necessary or appropriate to turn it into a left wing safe space. You mean just like women should just figure that a thread titled Titties, How Do Ya Like 'Em? should just not click on that one? Because objecting is so left wing? Or maybe black people should just chill with Proof That Skin Color and IQ Are Linked! Wake up and smell the catfood, buddy. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855/29 "2020-04-30T12:45:23Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > But we’d do well to remember that lesbians generally don’t go in for the juvenile stuff You and I know different lesbians. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855/30 "2020-04-30T13:00:32Z")
While not related to the thread in question, I was surprised by **Jonathan Chance** ’s crack in this post: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22277308&postcount=16](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22277308&postcount=16) I think he moderates that forum, so I didn’t bother reporting it – is he going to give himself a warning? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855/31 "2020-04-30T13:09:23Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > While not related to the thread in question, I was surprised by **Jonathan Chance** ’s crack in this post: > > [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22277308&postcount=16](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22277308&postcount=16) > > I think he moderates that forum, so I didn’t bother reporting it – is he going to give himself a warning? How come we can never have a thread about issues affecting women, minorities, or homosexual people on this board without some right winger running in to whine about how conservatives are the real victims here? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855/32 "2020-04-30T13:11:00Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > How come we can never have a thread about issues affecting women, minorities, or homosexual people on this board without some right winger running in to whine about how conservatives are the real victims here? Did you mean to respond to me? If so, I’m not conservative and I’m not whining about how conservatives are the real victims. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855/33 "2020-04-30T13:11:17Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > How come we can never have a thread about issues affecting women, minorities, or homosexual people on this board without some right winger running in to whine about how conservatives are the real victims here? You were wooshed. If Im reading right, Ritter Sport was complaining about JCs use of a homophobic term. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855/34 "2020-04-30T13:38:46Z")
I didn’t think I could start a thread titled “List your favorite Asian slurs and stereotypes”, or even one about maybe Jews, but I see it would be ok if I just pretended it was a thread about naming a bar. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855/35 "2020-04-30T13:49:34Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > You were wooshed. If Im reading right, Ritter Sport was complaining about JCs use of a homophobic term. Correct, except I didn’t mean to whoosh anyone. I was taken aback by **JC** use of that term. When I saw this thread title, I wondered whether it was that post or the bar thread. About the term **JC** used, until a few years ago, I didn’t even realize it was homophobic – it just seemed like an old-fashioned term for motherfucker or asshole, just something you yell at someone you’re pissed at. Then, some hockey player got in trouble for calling a ref that, and we had a thread here on the term and my eyes were opened. It was clear that back in the 50’s and 60’s, that would be considered a serious put-down, the implication that someone is gay. Probably sometime way back, motherfucker was more than just “bad thing you yelled at someone”, too. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855/36 "2020-04-30T15:22:25Z")
We’re discussing this. More later. Jenny your humble TubaDiva Administrator ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855/37 "2020-04-30T15:59:23Z")
As one who posted on the subject thread, this thread has been valuable. I’m happily heterosexual but have a number of gay friends, and when I posted I never thought about causing them any discomfort; indeed, it was simply that an old candy store in Abu Dhabi popped into my head when I saw the title and it seemed a logical answer (well, at least to me). But there was no wish on my part to (mis)characterize gays and I’m mildly shocked to see that I may have done that very thing. Soooo…eyes opened a bit more (even at 67 I can still learn things), ignorance fought, and apologies tendered. I’ll try to do better. ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855/38 "2020-04-30T16:09:33Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Yeah. I had approached that thread in all seriousness, as I didn’t find the idea of the thread itself offensive (I merely found the OP’s suggestion nonsensical) and offered what I considered a serious suggestion based on that, but I didn’t return to it once I noticed the prevalence of inane “Back door” suggestions. Serious question - it it relevant to your perception of that post that it purported to be in reference to an actual bar with an actual gay clientele, rather than a hypothesized humorous name? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855/39 "2020-04-30T16:19:18Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > I haven’t participated in the thread, but I can figure out what sort of names were proposed. What’s wrong with seeing that thread title, figuring out fairly quickly that you won’t like it, and then go participate in one of the other threads? Why do you want the board to ban this? The same thing that is wrong with encountering racism and/or sexism, saying nothing and just walking away. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855/40 "2020-04-30T16:24:39Z")
As one who has posted in the thread and now regret my insensitivity, I propose that the thread be closed since it is obviously causing so much justifiable offense and sorrow. My apologies for my participation in it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homophobia-on-the-dope/852855.md?page=3)