# Homosexuality, a crime ? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 29, 2000, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687 "2000-02-29T00:00:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Nu\_Vo\_Da\_Da](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/97f17d/32.png) [@Nu\_Vo\_Da\_Da](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nu_Vo_Da_Da)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2000, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687/181 "2000-03-02T21:23:00Z")
Nu Vo Da Da is disturbed by the way (m)Orion keeps referring to himself in the third person. Nu Vo Da Da thinks perhaps that this is the sign of some sirious mental problems. Nu Vo Da Da would also like to point out that saying THINGS IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS really doesn’t do anything to make them more true. At least I don’t think it does…just a second please. (GIRLS ADORE ME. THEY FLOCK TO ME AND DEMAND I SATISFY THEM SEXUALLY) Hm, well, nothing yet. I’ll keep you all updated though. This could turn out to be a major discovery. ---
**Author:** ![Nu\_Vo\_Da\_Da](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/97f17d/32.png) [@Nu\_Vo\_Da\_Da](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nu_Vo_Da_Da)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2000, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687/182 "2000-03-02T22:27:00Z")
Nu Vo Da Da is disturbed by the way (m)Orion keeps referring to himself in the third person. Nu Vo Da Da thinks perhaps that this is the sign of some sirious mental problems. Nu Vo Da Da would also like to point out that saying THINGS IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS really doesn’t do anything to make them more true. At least I don’t think it does…just a second please. (GIRLS ADORE ME. THEY FLOCK TO ME AND DEMAND I SATISFY THEM SEXUALLY) Hm, well, nothing yet. I’ll keep you all updated though. This could turn out to be a major discovery. ---
**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2000, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687/183 "2000-03-02T22:32:00Z")
[test post] ---
**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2000, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687/184 "2000-03-02T23:27:00Z")
[test post] ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2000, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687/185 "2000-03-02T23:30:00Z")
[quote] Originally posted by GLWasteful: \*\* > [@](#): > > the day that gays start to act thankful toward you and those of your ilk, I’m gonna be in church on my knees. > > \*\* ## Heh. [Change Your Password, Please](http://204.95.48.199/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getannounce&ForumNumber=3&Start=2451545.99&End=2451911&Session=2451598.1854) and don’t use HTML, as it has been disabled ---
**Author:** ![Holly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/48db29/32.png) [@Holly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Holly)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2000, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687/186 "2000-03-02T23:43:00Z")
:squirting wine out of nose onto keyboard: Phhhhht! ---
**Author:** ![ORION\_ORION](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4491bb/32.png) [@ORION\_ORION](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ORION_ORION)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2000, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687/187 "2000-03-02T23:50:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by Flinx: > \*\*Orion, allow me to introduce myself. I’m a conservative “gay” (if we must use that word as a noun). I don’t want to adopt children with a “life-partner” of my own sex. I don’t want to marry someone of my own sex. I don’t want to have sex with another man. Yet I find your opinions incredibly offensive, mostly because you are stereotyping all gays by the same judgments and pre-conceptions. > > I believe that at least in my case, my homosexual feelings are caused by environmental factors when I was young, perhaps even when I was in the womb. I could be wrong about this and have no cites to back me up. But for goodness sake, stop lumping all gays into the same mold. There are “gays” in all walks of life, with all political persuasions, all opinions, etc. You might as well say “all blacks” or “all Jews” are trying to do something politically as say “all gays” are trying to corrode and corrupt society.\*\* Then you are saying that you don’t agree about the agenda of the gay movement ? Sorry if I’m stereotyping, but I usually just hear from those gays from the gay movement, and their topic is always the questen of marriage, adopting, priesthood etc. They seems to be on TV many times a week. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687/188 "2000-03-03T00:06:00Z")
Nu, You’ve said that 8 times. Is it working yet? I may try it if it does. * * * Cecil said it. I believe it. That settles it. ---
**Author:** ![Nu\_Vo\_Da\_Da](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/97f17d/32.png) [@Nu\_Vo\_Da\_Da](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nu_Vo_Da_Da)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687/189 "2000-03-03T00:18:00Z")
Not yet, I’m not giving up hope yet though. Maybe if I tell them that I correspond in this MB, that usually drives them mad, right? 8 times? sheesh, I don’t think I’ve ever even double-posted before. oh well, if you’re gonna do something you might as well go all out… ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687/190 "2000-03-03T00:47:00Z")
I read this incredible thread for the first time today. Esprix, I am totally incapable of violence towards another, but if people like this idiot ever decided to go after you, I would gladly be there with you. Some things are worth dying for, and this is on the top of my list. ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687/191 "2000-03-03T01:39:00Z")
[Moderator Hat: ON AGAIN] Orion, what part of only quoting that which is necessary don’t you understand? To everybody else: Trust the CGI! If it doesn’t look like the board is working, please don’t post to it over and over and over again! * * * David B, SDMB Great Debates Moderator [Moderator Hat: OFF] ---
**Author:** ![Flinx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e79b87/32.png) [@Flinx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flinx)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687/192 "2000-03-03T02:19:00Z")
ORION\*\*\*ORION wrote: > [@](#): > > Then you are saying that you don’t agree about the agenda of the gay movement ? > Sorry if I’m stereotyping, but I usually just hear from those gays from the gay movement, and their topic is always the questen of marriage, adopting, priesthood etc. They seems to be on TV many times a week. No, I have no “gay agenda” to promote. I don’t believe gays should marry, nor do I believe that governments should sanction such marriage. However, I do believe that gays, including myself, have civil rights which should not be violated, including the right not to be locked up in prison just for being gay (!!!) The idea reminds me of the Nazi era in Germany. Let’s not repeat past mistakes by spreading bigotry and intolerance. After all, the act of homosexual sex and the act of heterosexual sex are remarkably similar, so if you’re going to lock people up for illicit gay sex, you’re gonna have to lock people up for illicit straight sex as well, to be fair. (“Illicit” meaning outside the bonds of marriage.) That’s just my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Sentinel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sentinel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sentinel)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687/193 "2000-03-03T02:35:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by Flinx: > **Orion, allow me to introduce myself. I’m a conservative “gay” (if we must use that word as a noun). I don’t want to adopt children with a “life-partner” of my own sex. I don’t want to marry someone of my own sex. I don’t want to have sex with another man. Yet I find your opinions incredibly offensive, mostly because you are stereotyping all gays by the same judgments and pre-conceptions.** I just **HAVE** to ask: then what _type_ of homosexual are you? If male and you choose not to have sex with a male, then _what_ do you choose to have sex with? :confused * * * ---
**Author:** ![Sentinel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sentinel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sentinel)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687/194 "2000-03-03T02:38:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by Flinx: > **Orion, allow me to introduce myself. I’m a conservative “gay” (if we must use that word as a noun). I don’t want to adopt children with a “life-partner” of my own sex. I don’t want to marry someone of my own sex. I don’t want to have sex with another man. Yet I find your opinions incredibly offensive, mostly because you are stereotyping all gays by the same judgments and pre-conceptions.** I just **HAVE** to ask: then what _type_ of homosexual are you? If male and you choose not to have sex with a male, then _what_ do you choose to have sex with? :confused * * * ---
**Author:** ![Sentinel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sentinel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sentinel)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687/195 "2000-03-03T02:48:00Z")
Ummm, sorry about the double post. I tried to stop the first one, and thought I had, to check a spot, and then resent it. There’s a long delay now between posting and it showing up on the board. * * * ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687/196 "2000-03-03T02:55:00Z")
I’m guessing Flinx is a celibate gay. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687/197 "2000-03-03T03:36:00Z")
> [@](#): > > I just HAVEto ask: then what type of homosexual are you? He’s the deeply-conflicted-about-his-sexuality-because -of-the-“teachings”-of-his-church-so-is-remaining-celibate-and engaged-in-what-will-ultimately-be-a-futile-effort-to-change-into-a-heterosexual type of homosexual. Gays are gay even when not having sex, just like you’re str8 even when not having sex. ---
**Author:** ![Flinx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e79b87/32.png) [@Flinx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flinx)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687/198 "2000-03-03T05:24:00Z")
Sentinel wrote: > [@](#): > > I just HAVEto ask: then what type of homosexual are you? If male and you choose not to have sex with a male, then what do you choose to have sex with? :confused I prefer Orangecakes. I’m semi-celibate, technically a virgin. ---
**Author:** ![Flinx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e79b87/32.png) [@Flinx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flinx)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687/199 "2000-03-03T10:36:00Z")
When I say “semi-celibate,” I don’t mean that I fool around part-time. Let’s just say that I could go blind at any time now… * * * The poster formerly known as “Snark.” (Don’t ask.) ---
**Author:** ![Flinx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e79b87/32.png) [@Flinx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flinx)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687/200 "2000-03-03T10:41:00Z")
When I say, “I could go blind at any time now,” I don’t mean that I endorse masturbation or do it excessively or even daily. I tend to fall off the wagon about once every two or three weeks, and I do feel sorry for doing it afterwards. It’s a filthy habit that I’ve been trying to get rid of for years. * * * The poster formerly known as “Snark.” (Don’t ask.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-a-crime/17687.md?page=11)