# Homosexuality and religion (prop 8) **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 13, 2008, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-religion-prop-8/472449 "2008-11-13T00:57:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-religion-prop-8/472449/42 "2009-01-01T03:17:55Z")
> [@Neerg\_Stnap](#): > > Exactly. Of course, gays, liberals, atheists, and Democrats don’t care about that. They _want_ people to make immoral choices. It’s the only way they can acheive their goal of destroying society: by forcing immorality and God-hatred down everyone’s throats. Mmmmkay. Whatever makes sense to you in your own little world, I guess. :dubious: Another non-religious reason beyond the “ick factor” might be just the whole, “they’re different, therefore, they’re freaks”, or “I don’t want anyone to think I’M gay”. I don’t believe that everyone who feels that way is a secret homosexual who puts on a front to hide his or her own orientation (like Roy Cohn)-some people are just insecure and want everyone to be just like them. Some think gays are perverts and deviants, etc. And some are just assholes. **Hostile Dialect** -ISTR? ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-religion-prop-8/472449/43 "2009-01-01T04:25:54Z")
ISTR - I Seem To Remember. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-religion-prop-8/472449/44 "2009-01-01T04:55:54Z")
Ah, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-religion-prop-8/472449/45 "2009-01-01T06:57:34Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > **Neerg Stnap** , considering that that was your first post on the board ever … > > … sarcasm or lunacy? A whooshing, I would say- and a quite palpable one! Read the name backwards! I’m not sure if it’s a brilliant parody or a stupid one of one of our more reknown Dopers, but a parody of him it is. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-religion-prop-8/472449/46 "2009-01-01T09:53:33Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > Read the name backwards! I’m not sure if it’s a brilliant parody or a stupid one of one of our more reknown Dopers, but a parody of him it is. Since I’ve run into people who talk like that, I see no reason to assume it’s a parody and not an honest opinion. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-religion-prop-8/472449/47 "2009-01-01T16:23:07Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Since I’ve run into people who talk like that, I see no reason to assume it’s a parody and not an honest opinion. Who express the sentiments in the post or who talk backwards? Michael J. Anderson, please call your office. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-religion-prop-8/472449/48 "2009-01-01T17:43:32Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > A whooshing, I would say- and a quite palpable one! > > Read the name backwards! I’m not sure if it’s a brilliant parody or a stupid one of one of our more reknown Dopers, but a parody of him it is. I got the Green Pants thing. Guess I didn’t tie it in to Backward Red Shirt. Maybe because I don’t even know what **Der Trihs** is referencing in his user name. I’m a little behind the times, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-religion-prop-8/472449/49 "2009-01-01T18:07:45Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > Who express the sentiments in the post or who talk backwards? The former. I’ve run into the idea that everyone who isn’t a Christian Conservative is a Satanist who is actively and knowingly trying to spread evil before. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-religion-prop-8/472449/50 "2009-01-02T11:14:54Z")
I prefer “I Seem To Recall”. It seems classier, somehow. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Pier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/35a633/32.png) [@Pier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pier)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-religion-prop-8/472449/51 "2009-01-05T15:06:48Z")
I prefer IIRC (If I Remember Correctly) myself 🙂 On the whole, nobody really has any “choice” on their sexual preferences. I can look at a naked Brad Pitt and not feel any sexual attraction, make it Monica Bellucci and the hormones go into overdrive. Besides, given the predominant prejudice and hatred against gays, one would be stupid to consciously make a choice to be gay, and subject themselves to ostracism and even violence. Heck, no wonder many gays remain in the closet, so to speak. It seems to be a variation on Aristotle’s “heavier objects fall faster than lighter objects” postulation - it seemed to make sense to people and they accepted it without actually examining the facts of the matter, until Galileo actually tested it and found it false. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-religion-prop-8/472449.md?page=2)