# homosexuality and the society

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-the-society/358470>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 27, 2006, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-the-society/358470 "2006-05-27T18:41:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-the-society/358470/121 "2006-05-29T14:28:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Annie-Xmas]  
Can somebody PLEASE give me an example of an sexual act that is used exclusively by every homosexual couple and has never been practiced by some straight couple somewhere? Somebody?  
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[Docking](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docking_%28sexual_practice%29)?

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-the-society/358470/122 "2006-05-29T14:50:00Z")

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[QUOTE=jayjay]  
[Docking](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docking_%28sexual_practice%29)?  
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She asked for a practice uh…practiced by every homosexual couple. I bet two circucised men can’t dock.

But really, an unreasonable question. I can’t come up with a single hetero activity that EVERY hetero couple in the history of the world has certainly done.

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**Author:** ![urban1a](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e47c2d/32.png) [@urban1a](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/urban1a)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-the-society/358470/123 "2006-05-29T14:51:40Z")

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[QUOTE=WhyNot]  
She asked for a practice uh…practiced by every homosexual couple. I bet two circucised men can’t dock.

But really, an unreasonable question. I can’t come up with a single hetero activity that EVERY hetero couple in the history of the world has certainly done.  
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I suspect the word ‘every’ doesn’t belong. The question would be ‘Name a sex act paractices exclusively by homosexuals and not by heterosexuals’.

Bob

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-the-society/358470/124 "2006-05-29T15:02:20Z")

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This thread is like a train wreck.

[QUOTE=Minotaurus]  
I’m not against homosexuals as such and would not refuse those who are gay to live their own life, but do they need to push their lifestyle into others face?  
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I’ve heard this before, amd it’s bullshit. Nobody is pushing anything in your face. On the other hand, straight people are free to hold hands, have their “partner’s” photo on their desk, kiss in public, and everyone thinks it’s OK. Some go way further than that, copping a feel, swapping spit, and doing all sorts of things. There’s nothing in your face about wanting the straights to keep their bigoted opinions to themselves. No gays go around saying things like “all straights should be killed” for example. No gays are on TV preaching that all straights are sick and twisted and should go to hell. If anything the straights get in our faces.

[QUOTE=Minotaurus]  
3-4 decades ago homosexual practice where forbidden by law in most nations in the west and i would not return that, but i feel that the gays (and especially their organization) push their case to the limit.  
I feel that gay people have an agenda to push more and more vulgar homosexual “things” into our culture.  
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Who gets to set the limit? You? Hell no. Setting what limits? Who decides? Who has the right to decide? There is no agenda, other than the old “leave us alone”.

[QUOTE=Minotaurus]  
gay culture is the traditionally lifestyle of gays, and this is something that they often tries to push into the society and make it so visual as possible for everybody  
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Horse shit. There is no Lifestyle. Some gays are businessmen, some are cops, some are go go dancers, an yes some are hairdressers. Gays are already in every segment of society. Or is it the “secret handshakes” and coded messages? The few “secret signals” there might have been, were the result of trying to not get bashed by straights.

[QUOTE=Minotaurus]  
have you ever thought about the fact that the vast majority, while they accept that gay are practising their lifestyly, finds gays sex to be sickening?

we are not expecting nor promotes that gays should stop having sex with each other, but we don’t accept that this is showed into our faces. We don’t like to see two men are kissing each other on a public place  
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Then. Don’t. Watch. Most of us don’t kiss or even hold hands in public. Why? Because someone like you would start trouble, say something stupid, and there would be more trouble than someone with your attitude is worth. I don’t want to see you and your “other” groping each other in public either, but guess what - the staright lifestyle is everywhere and is always being pushed in Our faces. Stop it. It’s nasty.

[QUOTE=Minotaurus]  
they wants to put more and more vulgar gay things into society

what will be next? commercials of gay porn on TV?  
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Right. There’s plenty of “soft” straight porn on TV already. There are lots of straight commercials pushing sex. Old couples, young couples, etc. There are even the “here’s Bob” Enzyte commercials. They all revolve, either openly, or through double meanings, about straight sex and the constant drive to get more straight sex, in one way or another. We, on the other hand, get Queer Eye and Big Gay Al. We can rearrange furniture, and select color schemes, but heaven forbid we ever get shown as something other than a cartoonish caricature.

[QUOTE=Minotaurus]  
i won’t have all this vulgar sex-related stuff in the society. Gays going hand in hand etc is not exactly what i was thinking about  
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And some of us are very tired of this “I won’t have” or “I don’t want” stuff. Many many people don’t care what you want anymore. I believe the famous line is “you’re not the boss of me now”. You don’t get to dictate to anyone.

[QUOTE=Minotaurus]  
yes, the usual stuff when a person disagree with homosexuals or a persons with a very liberal opinion about the topic. You are accusing them for being repressed homosexuals and homophobic extremists  
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I don’t think you are in the closet at all. I think you are just a narrow minded busy body bigot.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-the-society/358470/125 "2006-05-29T15:05:45Z")

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[QUOTE=urban1z]  
I suspect the word ‘every’ doesn’t belong. The question would be ‘Name a sex act paractices exclusively by homosexuals and not by heterosexuals’.

Bob  
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Ah. That makes more sense. And no, I can’t think of any.

Carry on. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-the-society/358470/126 "2006-05-29T15:11:45Z")

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I included the word “every” because the OP mentioned the “homosexual lifestyle” like there are things that every homosexual is doing as part of their lifestyle.

If someone thinks it’s not okay for two same sex people to do something, but it is okay for a two sex couple to do the exact same thing, someone is really f\*cked up.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-the-society/358470/127 "2006-05-29T15:35:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Annie-Xmas]  
Can somebody PLEASE give me an example of an sexual act that is used exclusively by every homosexual couple and has never been practiced by some straight couple somewhere? Somebody?  
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Um… re-enacting the light saber duel from Star Wars with their penises?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-the-society/358470/128 "2006-05-29T15:43:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Thudlow Boink]  
Um… re-enacting the light saber duel from Star Wars with their penises?  
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Surely _some_ gays aren’t Star Wars fans. 😃

Now, if it was only _some_ or _most_ gays, I’d suggest _mutual_ fellatio; unless the lady has had her equipment modified since original installation a hetero couple can’t do that. I doubt that there’s any one sex act that _all_ gays perform, however.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Clam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3bc359/32.png) [@Happy\_Clam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Clam)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-the-society/358470/129 "2006-05-29T15:47:53Z")

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> Now, if it was only some or most gays, I’d suggest mutual fellatio; unless the lady has had her equipment modified since original installation a hetero couple can’t do that. I doubt that there’s any one sex act that all gays perform, however.

Gay sex. _Duh._

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-the-society/358470/130 "2006-05-29T15:54:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Happy Clam]  
Gay sex. _Duh._  
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But a lot of gay sex acts are ones that straights do too. Fellatio and anal sex, for example.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-the-society/358470/131 "2006-05-29T15:56:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Der Trihs]  
But a lot of gay sex acts are ones that straights do too. Fellatio and anal sex, for example.  
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Whoosh? 😃

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-the-society/358470/132 "2006-05-29T16:11:41Z")

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[QUOTE=jayjay]  
Whoosh? 😃  
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I wasn’t sure if it was a joke or serious, so I treated it seriously.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-the-society/358470/133 "2006-05-29T16:14:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Der Trihs]  
Now, if it was only _some_ or _most_ gays, I’d suggest _mutual_ fellatio; unless the lady has had her equipment modified since original installation a hetero couple can’t do that. I doubt that there’s any one sex act that _all_ gays perform, however.  
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But isn’t that a terminology issue? I’ve certainly…uh…heard of friends, yeah, that’s it!..who will perform fellatio and cunnilingus simultaneously. That there “69”, I believe it’s called.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-the-society/358470/134 "2006-05-29T16:22:42Z")

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[QUOTE=WhyNot]  
But isn’t that a terminology issue? I’ve certainly…uh…heard of friends, yeah, that’s it!..who will perform fellatio and cunnilingus simultaneously. That there “69”, I believe it’s called.  
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But do fellatio and cunnilingus count as the same sex act ?

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**Author:** ![Minotaurus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Minotaurus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Minotaurus)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-the-society/358470/135 "2006-05-29T16:50:25Z")

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seams that I’m not the only one that see it like this

> **[Drunken Lezbo Sluts On S. Shore Railroad!](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=373320)**
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> Ah, spring! When the youth of Chicagoland get drunk and act horny and stupid in public! These four girls in their khaki bad-grzlz get-tough gear (including backwards ball caps) got on the 5:10 pm South Shore train at Randolph Street station, with...

(Drunken Lezbo Sluts On S. Shore Railroad!) 😃

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-the-society/358470/136 "2006-05-29T16:59:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Minotaurus]  
seams that I’m not the only one that see it like this

> **[Drunken Lezbo Sluts On S. Shore Railroad!](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=373320)**
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> Ah, spring! When the youth of Chicagoland get drunk and act horny and stupid in public! These four girls in their khaki bad-grzlz get-tough gear (including backwards ball caps) got on the 5:10 pm South Shore train at Randolph Street station, with...

(Drunken Lezbo Sluts On S. Shore Railroad!) 😃  
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Except not. The post in that thread objected to the fact that they were acting like jackasses-NOT because they were gay.

You seem to think this behavior is exclusive to homosexuals.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-the-society/358470/137 "2006-05-29T17:00:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Minotaurus]  
seams that I’m not the only one that see it like this

> **[Drunken Lezbo Sluts On S. Shore Railroad!](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=373320)**
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> Ah, spring! When the youth of Chicagoland get drunk and act horny and stupid in public! These four girls in their khaki bad-grzlz get-tough gear (including backwards ball caps) got on the 5:10 pm South Shore train at Randolph Street station, with...

(Drunken Lezbo Sluts On S. Shore Railroad!) 😃  
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seems like you are:

[QUOTE=Broomstick, the OP of that other thread]  
But mostly it wasn’t the lesbo shit that got me cranked, it was the drunken, obnoxious beer-spilling, rude-noise-making, loud-and-foul, inconsiderate asshole shit that pissed me off.  
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**Author:** ![Minotaurus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Minotaurus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Minotaurus)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-the-society/358470/138 "2006-05-29T18:44:27Z")

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i want to point out something

the cases that the gay/lesbian movements have been fighting for the last 2-3 decades and the topics that their fighting for today is of a highly political nature  
And as long as these are political issues, they are not the only ones that are allowed to debate and have opinions about it.

The liberation of gays & lesbians clearly have consequences for the society as whole and therefore all the citizens are free to mean something about it

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-the-society/358470/139 "2006-05-29T18:48:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Minotaurus]  
The liberation of gays & lesbians clearly have consequences for the society as whole  
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Exactly–it makes society as a whole a much, much better place.

Now: do you have _any intention_ of actually answering _any_ of the dozens of questions that have been put to you in this mistitled “Great Debate,” or are you just going to go on spewing your juvenile, fluff-headed hate speech? In which case, I move that this thread be closed, or moved to a forum where it would be more at home.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-and-the-society/358470/140 "2006-05-29T18:48:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Minotaurus]  
the cases that the gay/lesbian movements have been fighting for the last 2-3 decades and the topics that their fighting for today is of a highly political nature  
And as long as these are political issues, they are not the only ones that are allowed to debate and have opinions about it.

The liberation of gays & lesbians clearly have consequences for the society as whole and therefore all the citizens are free to mean something about it  
[/QUOTE]  
And have you been banned ? Have the SDMB Secret Police broken into your home and beaten you into submission with their rifle butts ? No ? Then you’re free to talk about it. Just as we are free to strongly disagree with you.

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