# "Homosexuality is caused by overcrowding." **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 3, 2006, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069 "2006-10-03T02:42:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069/21 "2006-10-03T12:56:36Z")
[QUOTE=Little Nemo] And Des Moines, Iowa. [/QUOTE] Look at the soil around Des Moines! You can’t build on it, you can’t grow anything on it! The government says it’s due to poor farming, but I know what’s really going on! ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069/22 "2006-10-03T12:57:00Z")
[QUOTE=Noone Special] I \*\*would \*\*be going to Hell for this, if it existed [/QUOTE] How do you figure? If Hell doesn’t exist, how do you explain the existence of Westboro Baptist? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069/23 "2006-10-03T12:59:26Z")
[QUOTE=Cervaise] Guy came by my office a few weeks ago. “Heard you’re interested in politics.” Ay-yuh. He proceeds to ask me if I’ve heard about how the ovens in Auschwitz couldn’t possibly have been used for the extermination of human beings, and about how the Zionist cabal has used their control of banking and the media to put out a doctored version of the “so-called” Holocaust. I listened to it for a couple of minutes, and then I cut him off, shut him down, and tore him to pieces, and then kicked him out of my office. On the up side, he thinks I’m a smart guy and respects my opinion, so I’m pretty sure he’s rethinking his views. On the down side, fuck. [/QUOTE] I had an argument like that once. My response in between calling the guy an ignorant jerk was to tell him I had worked with a vet that was in Patton’s 3rd army and when they rolled into Germany and found the first of the camps they found, he and all his company were so disgusted by the inhumanity of the Nazis that by that night, every SS officer had resisted surrender or tried to escape with the expected results. In his own words he said, “I don’t particularly like Jews, I was taught they killed Jesus, but nothing excuses what was done to them and no matter how much you do not like Jews, to deny what happened to them is a crime. I think everyone flying a Nazi Flag should be considered an enemy of the US, we made peace with the German people, not the Nazi Party.” He then went on in livid details about how he thought they should be allowed to shoot Neo-Nazis. I guess overall I agreed with most of what he said. {Except the killing Jesus part, that was a little weird.} Jim ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069/24 "2006-10-03T13:00:13Z")
Proper response: “Thank you. Normally it takes time, but you’ve gone and quickly let me know that you are someone I want absolutely nothing to do with, ever. Don’t talk to me again, unless it is work-related.” I’ve used variants of that on two occassions, related to racist remarks. ---
**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069/25 "2006-10-03T13:15:24Z")
[QUOTE=Skald the Rhymer] How do you figure? If Hell doesn’t exist, how do you explain the existence of Westboro Baptist? [/QUOTE] I don’t even know what “Westboro Baptist” **is** , let alone try to explain its existence 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069/26 "2006-10-03T13:25:57Z")
[QUOTE=Noone Special] I don’t even know what “Westboro Baptist” **is** , let alone try to explain its existence 😕 [/QUOTE] > **[Westboro Baptist Church](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist)** > > The Westboro Baptist Church (WBC) is an American unaffiliated Primitive Baptist church in Topeka, Kansas, that was founded in 1955 by pastor Fred Phelps. Widely considered a hate group and a cult,\[nb 1\] it is well known for its public protests against gay people and for its usage of the phrases "God hates fags" and "Thank God for dead soldiers". It also engages in hate speech against atheists, Jews, Muslims, transgender people, and other Christian denominations.\[nb 2\] The WBC's theology and pr... ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069/27 "2006-10-03T13:29:26Z")
[QUOTE=faithfool] Ya know, this is when I want to go… "I completely agree! I’ve been following the same musings of \< insert whoever wonderful individual here \> and they believe the same thing!! Isn’t it just amazing and heartwarming and positive at the same time? Would you like to see some for yourself? Really!? Wonderful! [/QUOTE] It’s fun to read this post in the voice of Carmen Ghia. If the song _Keep it Gay_ is running through your head at the same time, all the better. “\< insert whoever wonderful individual here \>” should be “Rush Limbaugh, yummy yummy yummy!” ---
**Author:** ![FormerMarineGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/65b543/32.png) [@FormerMarineGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FormerMarineGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069/28 "2006-10-03T13:29:43Z")
[QUOTE=Noone Special] I don’t even know what “Westboro Baptist” **is** , let alone try to explain its existence 😕 [/QUOTE] Isn’t this the church that goes to the funerals of military members killed in combat saying we are all being punished for ‘all the homosexuality going on’? They were recently given orders to keep a certain distance from these funerals but it is being challenged in the courts, with the help of the ACLU. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069/29 "2006-10-03T13:38:52Z")
[QUOTE=Maureen] AIDS is a tool for _population control_??! Where the HELL did you get this? [/QUOTE] This is not a new thing. Here’s the [Snopes article](http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/aids.asp) on it. Traditionally it is alleged that Blacks and gays were targeted by the government for elimination. Yes, it’s loony, but you would be amazed how many [public figures and allegedly well-educated people](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_conspiracy_theories) believe it. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069/30 "2006-10-03T13:39:17Z")
[QUOTE=FormerMarineGuy] Isn’t this the church that goes to the funerals of military members killed in combat saying we are all being punished for ‘all the homosexuality going on’? [/QUOTE] Their website is GodHatesFags. 'Nuff said. ---
**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069/31 "2006-10-03T13:46:28Z")
[QUOTE=Revtim] > **[Westboro Baptist Church](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist)** > > The Westboro Baptist Church (WBC) is an American unaffiliated Primitive Baptist church in Topeka, Kansas, that was founded in 1955 by pastor Fred Phelps. Widely considered a hate group and a cult,\[nb 1\] it is well known for its public protests against gay people and for its usage of the phrases "God hates fags" and "Thank God for dead soldiers". It also engages in hate speech against atheists, Jews, Muslims, transgender people, and other Christian denominations.\[nb 2\] The WBC's theology and pr... [/QUOTE] :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069/32 "2006-10-03T13:59:43Z")
For some reason, I tend to confuse Westboro Baptist with Landover Baptist. Let me see a couple of things here - 1. Overcrowding causes homesexuality 2. God is omnipotent 3. The Bible is the literal word of God 4. The Bible says humans should be fruitful and multiply Is it just me, or did God knowingly create the conditions for homosexuals? That of course is a half assed interpretation of my understanding of the fundy mindset. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069/33 "2006-10-03T14:17:10Z")
Actually, I think this might be true; I had to travel on a very crowded tube train a month or two back and when I arrived at Tottenham Court Road, I was twelve percent homosexual. Fortunately, the onward journey was less busy, so it wore off pretty fast. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069/34 "2006-10-03T14:34:04Z")
> [@](#): > > I don’t think it’s been debunked because it’s true. For rats. For male rats, in a behavioral sink. Plenty of homosexual rats even under ideal conditions (good restaurants, opera, female rat AA groups, etc.). > [@](#): > > Only if they accept Christ into their hearts. Rat-christ. Heh. Okay, I haven’t had coffee yet. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069/35 "2006-10-03T14:34:35Z")
[QUOTE=Ludovic] Look at the soil around Des Moines! You can’t build on it, you can’t grow anything on it! The government says it’s due to poor farming, but I know what’s really going on! [/QUOTE] Yeah, it’s all those _other_ people building and farming on it. Oughta be a law… ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069/36 "2006-10-03T14:46:22Z")
I’ve often contemplated a (slightly) similar theory…that some portion of homosexual behavior in the human populace may be an instinctual and/or hard-coded and/or indirect response to global over-population. We’re nowhere near being able to even try to study such musings though. In my warped world view, the lack of inherent procreation is a value-added service of my particular perversions. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069/37 "2006-10-03T15:09:50Z")
[QUOTE=Ludovic] Look at the soil around Des Moines! You can’t build on it, you can’t grow anything on it! The government says it’s due to poor farming, but I know what’s really going on! [/QUOTE] I know it’s the queers. They’re in it with the aliens. They’re building landing strips for gay Martians, I swear to God! (I was gonna leave it alone, but **Beware of Doug** got whooshed and all…) [\*](http://www.lyricsdownload.com/dead-milkmen-stuart-lyrics.html) ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069/38 "2006-10-03T15:18:13Z")
Well, homosexuality is _improved_ by overcrowding . . . ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069/39 "2006-10-03T15:56:43Z")
[QUOTE=Eve] Well, homosexuality is _improved_ by overcrowding . . . [/QUOTE] The theatre and restaurants tend to benefit as well. What? ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069/40 "2006-10-03T16:17:53Z")
[QUOTE=WhyNot] I know it’s the queers. They’re in it with the aliens. They’re building landing strips for gay Martians, I swear to God! (I was gonna leave it alone, but **Beware of Doug** got whooshed and all…) [li](http://www.lyricsdownload.com/dead-milkmen-stuart-lyrics.html)[/li][/QUOTE] I love you all for the Dead Milkmen referances in this thread. And here I thought I was alone… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality-is-caused-by-overcrowding/375069.md?page=3)