# Homosexuality

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality/597480>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [September 24, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality/597480 "2011-09-24T19:34:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Vahid\_Tarzan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/3e96dc/32.png) [@Vahid\_Tarzan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vahid_Tarzan)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality/597480/21 "2011-09-24T19:54:49Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> This would mean something if there were actual evidence that Sodom and Gomorrah existed, that they were destroyed by divine wrath and that wrath was caused by the cities demonstrating homosexual proclivities. Also the fact that many cities in the modern world have extremely active homosexual communities and they have not been destroyed by divine wrath seems to argue against the validity of your charge.

You must accept myth in our culture as it defines us and our future.

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**Author:** ![blinkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/43a26b/32.png) [@blinkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blinkie)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality/597480/22 "2011-09-24T19:55:58Z")

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We allow Westboro Baptists to post here? Mods trash this trash!

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**Author:** ![Vahid\_Tarzan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/3e96dc/32.png) [@Vahid\_Tarzan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vahid_Tarzan)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality/597480/23 "2011-09-24T19:56:19Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> and yet, despite the burgeoning awareness of homosexuality, the world’s population continues to increase.

It continue to increase because greed allows it.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality/597480/24 "2011-09-24T19:57:21Z")

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> [@Vahid\_Tarzan](#):
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> It continue to increase because greed allows it.

Is increased population good or bad?

If it’s good- why is the increase due to something negative like greed?

If it’s bad- why would you care of homosexuality ended it?

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**Author:** ![Vahid\_Tarzan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/3e96dc/32.png) [@Vahid\_Tarzan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vahid_Tarzan)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality/597480/25 "2011-09-24T19:57:26Z")

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> [@blinkie](#):
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> We allow Westboro Baptists to post here? Mods trash this trash!

I have no religion.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality/597480/26 "2011-09-24T19:57:43Z")

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Actually I don’t. Mythologies are useful for study and analysis of historical cultures. There is no reason to base modern day philosophies or actions on a few tribal stories. You have yet to make an argument or respond to other posters with anything other than a non-sequitur.

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**Author:** ![Vahid\_Tarzan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/3e96dc/32.png) [@Vahid\_Tarzan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vahid_Tarzan)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality/597480/27 "2011-09-24T19:58:29Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Is increased population good or bad?
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> If it’s good- why is the increase due to something negative like greed?
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> If it’s bad- why would you care of homosexuality ended it?

Homosexuality sits at the head of every table.

Ted Turner, one of them.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality/597480/28 "2011-09-24T19:58:39Z")

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> [@Vahid\_Tarzan](#):
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> War is the only remedy.

Please elaborate. Do you envision a civil war over allowing homosexuality, like the US civil war over slavery? Or do you see something more like one country that doesn’t allow homosexuality (like Saudi Arabia or Iran) invading us because we don’t lock up or kill our local gays?

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality/597480/29 "2011-09-24T19:59:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Vahid Tarzan]  
Did I say history? No. But I recall a city in biblical history destroyed by it.  
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Damn you must be old. I barely recall Watergate.

God seemed to be of the opinion he destroyed it for a different reason:

[QUOTE=Ezekiel 16]  
49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.  
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But then we all know he had some memory lapses.

> [@Vahid\_Tarzan](#):
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> It may appear that way, but we are dealing with an infection on this world that is merciless, that has the potentially of killing every living thing on this planet. Homosexuality is not about life, but death to our species.

That’s true. Those people breed like fucking rabbits.

[QUOTE=Vahid Tarzan]  
Homosexuality sits at the head of every table.  
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And frequently takes your order to boot.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality/597480/30 "2011-09-24T20:01:42Z")

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> [@Vahid\_Tarzan](#):
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> I have no religion.

Then why are you using a religious text as a reference or historical source?

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality/597480/31 "2011-09-24T20:02:22Z")

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> [@Vahid\_Tarzan](#):
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> Homosexuality sits at the head of every table.
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> Ted Turner, one of them.

That is not an answer to my question. That is a cryptic statement written to give the appearance of wisdom when it is actually meaningless.

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**Author:** ![Vahid\_Tarzan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/3e96dc/32.png) [@Vahid\_Tarzan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vahid_Tarzan)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality/597480/32 "2011-09-24T20:02:39Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> To what?

An unprecedented act of violence. Politics is faggotism.

Fear can and will kill homosexuality.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality/597480/33 "2011-09-24T20:03:04Z")

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> [@Vahid\_Tarzan](#):
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> It may appear that way, but we are dealing with an infection on this world that is merciless, that has the potentially of killing every living thing on this planet. Homosexuality is not about life, but death to our species.

Hmmm… I’m surprised you’re referring to homosexuality as “an infection”.

Most people think that it’s something you are not something you can be afflicted with or that you can be cured of.

Why do you feel this way?

Did you used to be gay but were able through the power of prayer and therapy cure yourself of this “infection”?

Do you still find yourself struggling against this “infection” and part of the reason you hate this acceptance of “homosexuality” because it makes it more difficult for you to fight this “infection”?

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality/597480/34 "2011-09-24T20:03:34Z")

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> [@Vahid\_Tarzan](#):
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> An unprecedented act of violence. Politics is faggotism.

What violence? There is much violence in the bible that is not only prohibited, but actually encouraged.

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**Author:** ![blinkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/43a26b/32.png) [@blinkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blinkie)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality/597480/35 "2011-09-24T20:04:19Z")

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No, actually you have no humanity and you seem to missing a few IQ points.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality/597480/36 "2011-09-24T20:04:55Z")

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> [@Vahid\_Tarzan](#):
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> An unprecedented act of violence. Politics is faggotism.

How many times is Larry Craig going to change his username before they ban his IP?

> [@blinkie](#):
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> No, actually you have no humanity and you seem to missing a few IQ points.

And a couple of lapsed prescription refills.

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**Author:** ![George\_Kaplin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@George\_Kaplin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/George_Kaplin)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality/597480/37 "2011-09-24T20:06:10Z")

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> [@Vahid Tarzan](#):
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> I look forward to this debate, as it is now one of the most widely accepted practices, and yet the central cause of corruption, death and inevitably war. I think if we look at the money, power and prestige feeding it, we will see a tyrannical monster gutting itself off our morals, so self involved is it it will wipe out billions without one thought if its malignant state.
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> Consider the pretentious, lying face of this evil. Society comes of like a bunch of faggot bunny rabbits, so gentle and nice, ‘gee whiz, I hope I’m not offending you while I’m talking to you with a gerbil in my ass!’

Y’know, I realize we don’t know eachother, and I haven’t even seen your picture or anything…but I get the feeling you might be kinda hot. I dunno _why_, exactly, I guess I just have a thing for crazy, ranty-shouty old men.

So, uh…wanna go out?

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality/597480/38 "2011-09-24T20:06:37Z")

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Whenever I read a big screed about homosexuality, do you know the first thing I think?

\*\*"Man, that guy _really needs to come to grips with the fact that he’s gay."_

See, I’m about as straight as you can be. I’m a middle-aged dad with two kids. I like having sex with women. I like looking at pictures of naked women. I have zero interest in hooking up with a dude.

And so, as a result, homosexuality isn’t that big a deal to me. Live and let live. If you like kissing guys and having them touch your junk, that’s none of my business.

But, on the other hand, if I WAS gay, but in denial, then the existence of other gays showing off their gayness would REALLY bother me. All those hot male bodies, loving on each other. What a massive temptation! I might be tempted to give in to all those gay impulses that I kept feeling. Which would be shattering to this whole facade I’d built up about being straight. It might be so shattering that I’d want to eradicate gayness entirely so I’d never feel that awful temptation again.

So, **Vahid Tarzan** , it’s okay that you’re gay. Really, it’s okay. You don’t have to act out like this.

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**Author:** ![Vahid\_Tarzan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/3e96dc/32.png) [@Vahid\_Tarzan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vahid_Tarzan)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality/597480/39 "2011-09-24T20:07:02Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> That is not an answer to my question. That is a cryptic statement written to give the appearance of wisdom when it is actually meaningless.

Rephrase your question. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/homosexuality/597480/40 "2011-09-24T20:07:33Z")

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> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#):
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> Whenever I read a big screed about homosexuality, do you know the first thing I think?
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> \*\*"Man, that guy _really needs to come to grips with the fact that he’s gay."_

Especially when their “View My Homepage” leads to a site about pug breeding and paranormal investigation. Check it out!

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