# Honest officer! I'm sotatly tober! **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 3, 2000, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honest-officer-im-sotatly-tober/27964 "2000-08-03T07:57:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/db5fbb/32.png) [@Ted](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ted)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2000, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honest-officer-im-sotatly-tober/27964/1 "2000-08-03T07:57:50Z")
So like, if God didn’t want us to drink how come he went about turning water into wine? ---
**Author:** ![jb\_farley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9d8465/32.png) [@jb\_farley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jb_farley)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2000, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honest-officer-im-sotatly-tober/27964/2 "2000-08-03T08:08:01Z")
and if he didn’t want us to smoke, why the hell did he appear as a burning bush? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2000, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honest-officer-im-sotatly-tober/27964/3 "2000-08-03T08:18:43Z")
Who said God didn’t want us to drink? ---
**Author:** ![jb\_farley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9d8465/32.png) [@jb\_farley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jb_farley)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2000, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honest-officer-im-sotatly-tober/27964/4 "2000-08-03T08:36:15Z")
well, thousands if not hundreds of thousands (possibly even millions). Uh, the teetotalers, and many extremely conservative Christian groups. And let’s not forget the mormons, and stricter Muslims (okay, they said Allah told them it was bad, but still). and a lot more that i’m too sleepy to try to remember. ---
**Author:** ![Ted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/db5fbb/32.png) [@Ted](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ted)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2000, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honest-officer-im-sotatly-tober/27964/5 "2000-08-03T08:37:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by spooje \* > \*\*Who said God didn’t want us to drink? \*\* [http://www.pathwaynet.com/libertyb/biblecrs/alcohol/alcohol1.htm](http://www.pathwaynet.com/libertyb/biblecrs/alcohol/alcohol1.htm) - this person. [http://www.thebiblespeaks.com/Donts/drinking.htm](http://www.thebiblespeaks.com/Donts/drinking.htm) - here [http://www.biblequestions.org/archives/BQAR036.htm](http://www.biblequestions.org/archives/BQAR036.htm) - here too [http://www.scionofzion.com/drinking.htm](http://www.scionofzion.com/drinking.htm) - and of course here Generaly the bigest claim made is that the greek (and or hebrew) word for wine can mean fermented or unfermented beverages. However I can’t but wonder if they are not taking this out of context and putting it into what they belive as true. How many wedding parties do you know of that would serve non-alcoholic fruit juice to the guests. Esp. considering that they serve the worst wine first (becasue by the end of the party people are too drunk to tell a good from a bad vintage) It almost explictly confrims that there is true drinking going on. ---
**Author:** ![7\_of\_7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/7/3bc359/32.png) [@7\_of\_7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/7_of_7)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honest-officer-im-sotatly-tober/27964/6 "2000-08-04T04:09:30Z")
The debate about alcohol, and probably specifically wine even, is older than the bible, and appears in many ancient books in China and India/Pakistan heritage. ---
**Author:** ![Surgoshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Surgoshan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surgoshan)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honest-officer-im-sotatly-tober/27964/7 "2000-08-04T05:10:29Z")
Noah had a drinking problem, and he was the only man fit to live, it appears. ---
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honest-officer-im-sotatly-tober/27964/8 "2000-08-04T08:35:58Z")
“Give stong drink to those who are about to die, and wine to the heavy-hearted that they may forget their poverty and remember their sorrow no more.” ``` Proverbs- something ``` I’d remember the citation but I’ve been drinking.