# Honeybadger warning over global warming disinformation **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 29, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honeybadger-warning-over-global-warming-disinformation/990881 "2023-09-29T20:52:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honeybadger-warning-over-global-warming-disinformation/990881/41 "2023-09-30T16:52:43Z")
In general, I think baiting someone into violating a ban should be subject to moderation. Because you are effectively an accessory to that rules violation. I swear I’ve seen notes asking people not to do that but I can’t remember enough details of the incident enough to even start a search. It’s not even so much about “fairness” as it is that doing so is instigating the kind of disruption that the ban is intended to prevent. If such a thing isn’t against the rules it really should be. It’s almost a light form of trolling in its own right. ---
**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honeybadger-warning-over-global-warming-disinformation/990881/42 "2023-09-30T16:56:16Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > If the topic ban doesn’t work, they have nobody else to blame. And it shouldn’t matter that they’re banned from a particular topic for others to discuss said topic. If you go back and check your thread I wasn’t the one that derailed it. I was all for talking about a climate corps because I really believe in it strongly. Another poster jumped on me about my climate views which are not climate denial. I apologize for responding to him. I should have just let it go. This is the biggest topic of my lifetime, and it is being treated like a house on fire. There is simply no way to talk about it. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honeybadger-warning-over-global-warming-disinformation/990881/43 "2023-09-30T19:28:31Z")
People here are adults and are responsible for their own posts. ‘He made me do it’ never flies. My first warning here was me saying ‘fuck you’ to outright targeted racebaiting by Shodan. And I had to suck it up. Because I posted what I did myself, not him. So it goes for all of us. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honeybadger-warning-over-global-warming-disinformation/990881/44 "2023-09-30T19:31:33Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > People here are adults and are responsible for their own posts. ‘He made me do it’ never flies. That seems like a very unconstructive response. > [@MrDibble](#): > > My first warning here was me saying ‘fuck you’ to outright targeted racebaiting by Shodan. And I had to suck it up. Because I posted what I did myself, not him. So it goes for all of us. And yet Shodan was banned for similar behavior later, so your example is an extremely poor one; rather it supports what I’m saying. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honeybadger-warning-over-global-warming-disinformation/990881/45 "2023-09-30T19:39:17Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > That seems like a very unconstructive response. It’s way more constructive than this one you just posted. > [@Atamasama](#): > > And yet Shodan was banned for similar behavior later No, he was banned for misogyny. Not for any response to his baiting. > [@Atamasama](#): > > rather it supports what I’m saying. In what way? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honeybadger-warning-over-global-warming-disinformation/990881/46 "2023-09-30T19:46:03Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > In what way? That baiting people is not always tolerated on the board. In most cases it is, but in others it hasn’t been. As I said, it can resemble trolling. I don’t see how it’s helpful to the board to shrug and say “suck it up”. That’s been the case for a lot of things on the board that are no longer tolerated, and it made the board better. Like, for example… > [@MrDibble](#): > > misogyny I’m failing to see why prodding someone into violating a ban is good. Isn’t the whole point of a topic ban, as opposed to a full ban, that you’re trying to **stop** the behavior? So why is it good for someone to deliberately incite that behavior? It makes no sense. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honeybadger-warning-over-global-warming-disinformation/990881/47 "2023-09-30T19:54:50Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@MrDibble](#): > > > > misogyny > > I’m failing to see why prodding someone into violating a ban is good. Nobody prodded Shodan to make misogynistic comments. He threw a misogynistic comment into a Hillary Clinton rant that could have just avoided mentioning her gender. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honeybadger-warning-over-global-warming-disinformation/990881/48 "2023-09-30T19:59:12Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > That baiting people is not always tolerated on the board. Shodan wasn’t baited into his final misogynistic post. He just came out with it. > [@Atamasama](#): > > I don’t see how it’s helpful to the board to shrug and say “suck it up”. I didn’t say the baiting was what one had to suck up. _ **Owning responsibility for your own posts** _ is what you have to suck up. > [@Atamasama](#): > > I’m failing to see why prodding someone into violating a ban is good. I’m failing to see what this has to do with Shodan, who wasn’t _baited_ into calling a woman a harpy. ---
**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honeybadger-warning-over-global-warming-disinformation/990881/49 "2023-09-30T20:03:46Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > People here are adults and are responsible for their own posts. ‘He made me do it’ never flies. My first warning here was me saying ‘fuck you’ to outright targeted racebaiting by Shodan. And I had to suck it up. Because I posted what I did myself, not him. So it goes for all of us I never complained about it at the time, but the fact is that Someone else shitted on the thread, I responded to it but only I was punished for thread shitting. I had no ban at that time. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honeybadger-warning-over-global-warming-disinformation/990881/50 "2023-09-30T20:05:09Z")
That is not what happened. Try linking to the warning and your post instead. > [@American Climate Corps](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-climate-corps/990521/12): > > Not to shit on the topic but there is no scientific consensus, You must have heard that from politicians not scientists. > [@American Climate Corps](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-climate-corps/990521/17): > > Moderating: As you go on to not just shit on but hijack this topic. The existence of climate change and its dire effects on our planet are proven facts and are considered Tired Topics on this board, not open for further debate. Stick to discussion on the topic of this thread, or accept that you have nothing to contribute to it. > [@American Climate Corps](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-climate-corps/990521/19): > > @HoneyBadgerDC Please note, this is being upped to a Warning. You are ignoring both P&E rules. You have dropped Anthropogenic climate change is various threads. Even claimed there is no such thing as a climate scientist. You will not disrupt any more threads with this nonsense. You are not to post any further in this thread. Avoid Climate Denial posts or next will begin the suspensions. I hope this is clear enough. Is what actually happened. The P&E/GD rule has existed since 2020 and you’ve been advised of it before IIRC. Stay away from the subject completely on the SDMB is my advise to you. Stick to other subjects. ---
**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honeybadger-warning-over-global-warming-disinformation/990881/51 "2023-09-30T20:09:05Z")
I would request that you ban me for this site so I won’t be tempted to keep coming back and looking. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honeybadger-warning-over-global-warming-disinformation/990881/52 "2023-09-30T20:10:10Z")
That should put an end to it! ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honeybadger-warning-over-global-warming-disinformation/990881/53 "2023-09-30T20:10:35Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > It’s the Pit, it’s inherently not fair. And somehow, people think this is a feature, not a bug. 🙄 > [@MrDibble](#): > > We can still freely mention them in other Pit and even ATMB threads, though It used to be the rule that you cant shit on banned posters. It’s okay to mention how and why they were banned, but it used to be that insulting them was off limits. Isnt that still the rule? ---
**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honeybadger-warning-over-global-warming-disinformation/990881/56 "2023-09-30T20:12:50Z")
I never denied the consensus on global warming, I denied the consensus on how much it is warmig and the timetable. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honeybadger-warning-over-global-warming-disinformation/990881/57 "2023-09-30T20:13:07Z")
Please be advised that is pretty off-topic for this thread. Please drop it. * * * * * * Actually, I’m going to close this thread after @HoneyBadgerDC reply and bring the following post to the attention of all the Moderators. > [@HoneyBadgerDC](#): > > I would request that you ban me for this site so I won’t be tempted to keep coming back and looking. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honeybadger-warning-over-global-warming-disinformation/990881/58 "2023-09-30T20:13:10Z")
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