# Honk if you LIKE Daylight Saving Time and don't consider the system "broken."

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honk-if-you-like-daylight-saving-time-and-dont-consider-the-system-broken/652206>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 6, 2013, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honk-if-you-like-daylight-saving-time-and-dont-consider-the-system-broken/652206 "2013-03-06T17:52:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honk-if-you-like-daylight-saving-time-and-dont-consider-the-system-broken/652206/21 "2013-03-06T20:58:23Z")

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\>Meep meep\<

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honk-if-you-like-daylight-saving-time-and-dont-consider-the-system-broken/652206/22 "2013-03-06T21:08:59Z")

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I’ll admit it.  
I do not know DST from non-DST. I know spring forward, fall back. That’s it. Good night.

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**Author:** ![jools](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b3f665/32.png) [@jools](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jools)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honk-if-you-like-daylight-saving-time-and-dont-consider-the-system-broken/652206/23 "2013-03-06T21:19:50Z")

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Honk… I don’t see any problem with it!

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honk-if-you-like-daylight-saving-time-and-dont-consider-the-system-broken/652206/24 "2013-03-06T21:23:46Z")

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Hell, might as well enjoy all the daylight we can until climate change destroys all of humanity.

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**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honk-if-you-like-daylight-saving-time-and-dont-consider-the-system-broken/652206/25 "2013-03-06T22:41:10Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Yup, I like it as well. I’m one of about three people in Indiana who does.

butbutbutbut…_ **GOD’S TIME** _…butbutbutbut…

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honk-if-you-like-daylight-saving-time-and-dont-consider-the-system-broken/652206/26 "2013-03-07T01:59:01Z")

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The DST system is awesome. Without it, here in Chicago in June the sun would be rising at 4:15. Keep the + 1 hour to force us into DST the whole time and in December, the sun wouldn’t rise until just after 8 am. It’s the best solution for our situation.

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**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honk-if-you-like-daylight-saving-time-and-dont-consider-the-system-broken/652206/27 "2013-03-07T02:07:51Z")

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HONK!

I swear, this is one of the few topics that could potentially move me to violence.

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**Author:** ![freckafree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freckafree/32/3050_2.png) [@freckafree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freckafree)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honk-if-you-like-daylight-saving-time-and-dont-consider-the-system-broken/652206/28 "2013-03-07T02:12:16Z")

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The only think I don’t like is DST beginning in March rather than April. We’re ju-u-u-u-u-ust starting to get some daylight at the time I go out to run, and now we get plunged back into darkness for another month or so.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honk-if-you-like-daylight-saving-time-and-dont-consider-the-system-broken/652206/29 "2013-03-07T02:16:20Z")

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I love Daylight Savings time. I miss evenings outside during the long dark winters.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honk-if-you-like-daylight-saving-time-and-dont-consider-the-system-broken/652206/30 "2013-03-07T02:17:09Z")

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I hate DST with a passion. Especially the fact that there is a different rule in every country. Yes, Microsoft’s TimeZone machinery in later OSs makes it easier to deal with it, but it is still a huge PITA when you store and display tick financial data for various international and US markets and the program needs to be localized internationally.

AFAIR reading, there is no, nada, zilch economic benefit to having DST. Just get rid of it already.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honk-if-you-like-daylight-saving-time-and-dont-consider-the-system-broken/652206/31 "2013-03-07T03:03:52Z")

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I don’t mind it. Personally, I wish we had “daylight saving” time all year round. But, shrug: it works.

This year, it happens in the middle of a convention that I’m involved in organizing. I just KNOW that people are going to show up late for Sunday events! But it’s a small price to pay.

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**Author:** ![Heracles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heracles/32/487_2.png) [@Heracles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heracles)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honk-if-you-like-daylight-saving-time-and-dont-consider-the-system-broken/652206/32 "2013-03-07T03:11:08Z")

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Meep meep.

The whole system seems reasonable.

An alternative would be to just shorten the work day in the winter and lengthen it in the summer. Nah, forget I said that.

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**Author:** ![Dereknocue67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6de8d8/32.png) [@Dereknocue67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dereknocue67)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honk-if-you-like-daylight-saving-time-and-dont-consider-the-system-broken/652206/33 "2013-03-07T09:46:18Z")

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There’s a petition ([The White House](https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/eliminate-bi-annual-time-change-caused-daylight-savings-time/ShChxpKh#thank-you=p)) asking for its elimination. Currently, it has 96,000+ signatures (including mine).

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**Author:** ![JerseySwamps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9a140/32.png) [@JerseySwamps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JerseySwamps)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honk-if-you-like-daylight-saving-time-and-dont-consider-the-system-broken/652206/34 "2013-03-07T09:56:42Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> The system is perfect the way it is. Nothing needs to be fixed.
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> Post if you agree.

So, in 2006 you felt it should be extended?

I also want to point out the irony that since 1987 we are on “standard” time less than 50 percent of the time.

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**Author:** ![Dereknocue67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6de8d8/32.png) [@Dereknocue67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dereknocue67)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honk-if-you-like-daylight-saving-time-and-dont-consider-the-system-broken/652206/35 "2013-03-07T10:01:14Z")

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> [@Dereknocue67](#):
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> There’s a petition ([https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/eliminate-bi-annual-time-change-caused-daylight-savings-time/ShChxpKh#thank-you=p](https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/eliminate-bi-annual-time-change-caused-daylight-savings-time/ShChxpKh#thank-you=p)) asking for its elimination. Currently, it has 96,000+ signatures (including mine).

I meant to say it has 96000+ signatures to go before it’s considered.

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**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honk-if-you-like-daylight-saving-time-and-dont-consider-the-system-broken/652206/36 "2013-03-07T15:41:02Z")

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> [@Ferret\_Herder](#):
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> The DST system is awesome. Without it, here in Chicago in June the sun would be rising at 4:15. Keep the + 1 hour to force us into DST the whole time and in December, the sun wouldn’t rise until just after 8 am. It’s the best solution for our situation.

Yup. Exactly.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honk-if-you-like-daylight-saving-time-and-dont-consider-the-system-broken/652206/37 "2013-03-07T16:07:31Z")

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> [@JerseySwamps](#):
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> So, in 2006 you felt it should be extended?

I was thrilled when I found out.

> [@](#):
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> I also want to point out the irony that since 1987 we are on “standard” time less than 50 percent of the time.

Summertime squee!

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**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honk-if-you-like-daylight-saving-time-and-dont-consider-the-system-broken/652206/38 "2013-03-07T16:48:21Z")

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No honk. According to [http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/a-blog-around-the-clock/2013/03/07/lets-not-spring-forward/](http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/a-blog-around-the-clock/2013/03/07/lets-not-spring-forward/) DST increases heart attacks and accidents and does not even save any energy. It is a huge hassle for those of us who deal with a dozen or more devices with clocks in them, especially given that Congress changes the rules so that automatic systems go through six changes a year instead of two.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honk-if-you-like-daylight-saving-time-and-dont-consider-the-system-broken/652206/39 "2013-03-07T16:50:27Z")

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Thailand does not change its clocks, but I have fond memories of time changes in the US. Once a year, the bars could stay open an extra hour, which was always fun. (Never mind that they had to lose an hour the other time.) And working graveyard shift like I did in my youth, I either received an extra hour’s pay or worked an hour less. This may not sound like a lot, but it really is good memories.

The only thing I don’t like is that they changed the dates for the change. Should have just left them alone.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/honk-if-you-like-daylight-saving-time-and-dont-consider-the-system-broken/652206/40 "2013-03-07T16:56:56Z")

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I admit I’m not terribly fond of the degree to which DST was extended, but I do like it. I live in a location where, in the peak of Summer, PST would have the sun up at like 4:30am, and contrariwise in the midwinter on PDT the sun wouldn’t be up until something like 8:30am. Switching time works well for me. I know in terms of nationwide safety and productivity, it’s a mixed bag. But it’s traditional and I like it.

I do find the biannual bitch-fest about PDT quite tiresome, I must say. It’s not going away, folks.

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