# Hoop Snake Fail

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoop-snake-fail/635186>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 19, 2012, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoop-snake-fail/635186 "2012-09-19T16:34:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoop-snake-fail/635186/1 "2012-09-19T16:34:17Z")

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Not really a pitting. Just a follow up in case anyone was interested in the not at all surprising outcome from [this thread on hoop snakes](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=665639).

I offered **hotdog** the chance to start a new thread and publish this himself, but since he hasn’t I’ll be a jerk and and do it myself.

> [@hotdog messenger](#):
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> hello…
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> I think I have to clear something betwee our deal. My friend called his father a while ago because we have to confirm about the hoop snake thing, but we got some disappointing news. According to him hoop snakes are not common nowadays as they were before, and there was a misunderstanding. We meant the hoop snake, but he was talking about another creature. So I have to notify you as early as now because we can’t promise you that we can capture the hoop snake.
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> Now on the other hand, the creature he was talking about was called a CROWING SNAKE. I looked up on the internet and I found out there is no crowing snake on the animal list. I would like to ask you if you are interested in this one. I have no idea if there are crowing snakes in your area or if you considered them as mythical like the hoop snake. If you have no idea about the crowing snake, I can describe it to you. A crowing snake grows to a length of about 2 to 3 feet. It’s distinguishing features are that it’s head has a crest like a rooster. It also crows like one. This snake is so poisonous that few people would dare to catch it. Tell me if you are interested in this.
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> I guess I have push my luck once more. Not only do we have a crowing snake, we also have a creature called in our language as “banakon” sometimes called as Philippine King Cobra. This snake reaches to about 18 feet in length and said to be very dangerous, it chases anybody who enters it’s territory and on some occassions, it knocks on the doors and attacks any person who opens it. It’s distinguishing features are it’s diamond-shaped head, and it’s two limblike protrusions (much like a leg) in the middle of it’s body. It is said to aid the snake’s movement, allowing it to crawl at a very fast pace compared to other snakes, though not as fast as an average human.
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> That’s all I have to say. Really, I’m disappointed too because I was so determined we can capture a hoop snake but then I found out it was very difficult, if not impossible. That was really a misunderstanding on my part and I do apologize.
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> So what do you say man? Just message me if you are interested. We just shifted from hoop snake to a crowing snake and the banakon (Philippine King Cobra).

I’m soooooo disappointed. I was absolutely sure that hotdog had hoop snakes so I went to the bank this morning and withdrew the money. 100 clean crisp C-notes. I already had it wrapped up in a brown paper package and was ready to send it to the Phillipines as soon as he gave me an address. Ah well! Live and learn.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoop-snake-fail/635186/2 "2012-09-19T16:39:49Z")

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I want a phoenix. Can he get me a phoenix?

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoop-snake-fail/635186/3 "2012-09-19T17:04:09Z")

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I’m still looking for those “compassionate conservatives” they were talking about a few years ago.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoop-snake-fail/635186/4 "2012-09-19T17:16:39Z")

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What a scam artist! He’ll keep throwing out obvious fakes for you to extend the offer for, then slip in a rare-but-real critter for the payoff, hoping you won’t notice the ringer.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoop-snake-fail/635186/5 "2012-09-19T17:22:37Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> What a scam artist! He’ll keep throwing out obvious fakes for you to extend the offer for, then slip in a rare-but-real critter for the payoff, hoping you won’t notice the ringer.

Well one must be careful when offering rewards for mythical creatures. I understand some stalwart souls have begun to explore the interior of Australia, an island believed to be non-existent until the late 1980s. Who knows when someone might bring out the remains of a ‘kang-a-roo’, a creature assumed to be based solely on the legend of a giant bunny rabbit.

However I beg to differ with your opinion that makes him sound like a scam artist. I think scam artists are generally insulted by that description of someone running a sub-Nigerian attempt to defraud.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoop-snake-fail/635186/6 "2012-09-19T17:30:19Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> What a scam artist! He’ll keep throwing out obvious fakes for you to extend the offer for, then slip in a rare-but-real critter for the payoff, hoping you won’t notice the ringer.

Ringers are indeed rare but real. They are the infertile offspring of a Hoop Snake and Garter Snake.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoop-snake-fail/635186/7 "2012-09-19T17:33:41Z")

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Maybe he’ll have better luck over at JREF _snerk_

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoop-snake-fail/635186/8 "2012-09-20T12:43:11Z")

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A snake that knocks on the door and attacks people who answer? How does it knowck? I didn’t think snakes had hands.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoop-snake-fail/635186/9 "2012-09-20T12:58:37Z")

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How much for a breeding pair of crowing snakes? I’ve got a friend looking for just such an investment opportunity.

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**Author:** ![Baracus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2bfe46/32.png) [@Baracus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baracus)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoop-snake-fail/635186/10 "2012-09-20T13:09:39Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> A snake that knocks on the door and attacks people who answer? How does it knowck? I didn’t think snakes had hands.

It uses one of its “limb-like protrusions”, duh.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoop-snake-fail/635186/11 "2012-09-20T13:28:42Z")

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I will henceforth lie awake in fear at night at the thought of the Phillippine King Cobra, which grows far larger than nature chose to make any other venomous snake.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoop-snake-fail/635186/12 "2012-09-20T13:57:02Z")

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Dammit, I clicked in because I thought “Hoop Snake Fail” was that [movie](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Snake_Moan_(film)) where Samuel L. Jackson put Christina Ricci in chains.

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoop-snake-fail/635186/13 "2012-09-20T14:04:49Z")

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i was hoping you’d start a thread with this with an update.

who wants to fund my snipe hunt? large payback, get in on the ground floor.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoop-snake-fail/635186/14 "2012-09-20T14:21:53Z")

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> [@johnpost](#):
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> i was hoping you’d start a thread with this with an update.
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> who wants to fund my snipe hunt? large payback, get in on the ground floor.

Ooh, can we ride around in Land Rovers with a camera crew on top? Or better yet, remember the thread where some young’un wanted to paint his jeep to recreate the vehicles from Jurassic Park?

I’ll bring stuff for s’mores!

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoop-snake-fail/635186/15 "2012-09-20T14:25:29Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> A snake that knocks on the door and attacks people who answer? How does it knowck? I didn’t think snakes had hands.

Actually, it just rings the doorbell and says “Candygram!”.

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**Author:** ![brainstall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@brainstall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brainstall)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoop-snake-fail/635186/16 "2012-09-20T14:32:27Z")

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I want a unicorn. Pretty sure they’re real because I saw them in Harry Potter. England is full of mystical creatures.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoop-snake-fail/635186/17 "2012-09-20T14:33:13Z")

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George Michael, for instance.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoop-snake-fail/635186/18 "2012-09-20T14:34:21Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoop-snake-fail/635186/19 "2012-09-20T15:02:05Z")

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Damn it! I’m a herpetologist (sort of), I manage a captive collection, and I’ve got $10,000. Now I’ll never get that Philippine Hoop Snake I’ve been wanting for exhibition. ☹

I guess I’ll also never get to meet that other rarity, a Philippine entrepreneur who speaks stilted English, doesn’t understand International time or common business practices, but is completely conversant with a variety of American slang and idiom.

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**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoop-snake-fail/635186/20 "2012-09-20T15:03:32Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> Actually, it just rings the doorbell and says “Candygram!”.

Flowers!

_(sorry, couldn’t help myself)_

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