# Hopefully, my last Bush Bashing pit thread.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 16, 2008, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401 "2008-12-16T15:11:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/21 "2008-12-16T19:06:37Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> And he’ll probably take all the “O” keys off the White House computers before he leaves, too. The man has no shame.

If his staff does this, I will laugh quietly to myself. And Obama will not get his panties in a bunch, and there will not be an expensive GAO investigation…

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/22 "2008-12-16T19:15:12Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> And he’ll probably take all the “O” keys off the White House computers before he leaves, too. The man has no shame.

If his staff does this, I can guarantee that it will be taken by Obama, his staff and his supporters in the light hearted vein in which it’s intended, and not humorlessly mischaracterized as outrageous vandalism.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/23 "2008-12-16T20:09:22Z")

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Except knowing Bush’s administration, they’ll probably fuck up and take the “zero” keys instead.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/24 "2008-12-16T20:10:30Z")

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Gosh, you know who’s conspicuously absent from this thread? The Bush apologists. Here Bush says, straight from his own war criminal mouth, that there was no al Qaeda presence in Iraq prior to our invasion, something many of us tried to say before the war (“look, seriously, SADDAM IS A FUCKING ASSHOLE DICTATOR BUT HE HATES AL QAEDA TOO AND WON’T LET THEM IN HIS COUNTRY!!”), and crickets chirp in the direction of the Bushbots.\*

> [@elucidator](#):
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> Sadly, no. Much has been revealed, most of it revolting, some of it damning, and it would be nice to think that there are no brightly wrapped boxes of goat leprosy still under the tree…
> 
> But no.

I read somewhere the other day that Seymour Hersh has a slew of whistleblowers ready to spill on January 21. I think we haven’t even scraped the rancid foam off the top yet.

- (cue Starving Artist: “But Clinton got a blow job! VINCE FOSTER!!”)

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/25 "2008-12-16T20:18:23Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Except knowing Bush’s administration, they’ll probably fuck up and take the “zero” keys instead.

If they did, it could be a symbolic gesture in solidarity with the Freepers. After all, many of those scumbags call him “Zero.” Oh my, those people are freaky, scary, deluded cumstains.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/26 "2008-12-16T20:19:05Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Be great to see the guy interviewed, if he’s still alive.

He’s already been indicted on a number of counts including Assault with a Deadly Shoe, Possession of a Concealed Shoe Without a Permit, Conspiracy to Commit Shoecide, and Hate Crime Against a Specific Population (people with shoes).

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/27 "2008-12-16T20:21:00Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> And he’ll probably take all the “O” keys off the White House computers before he leaves, too. The man has no shame.

> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> If his staff does this, I can guarantee that it will be taken by Obama, his staff and his supporters in the light hearted vein in which it’s intended, and not humorlessly mischaracterized as outrageous vandalism.

Oprah, on the other hand, will be highly offended.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/28 "2008-12-16T20:28:31Z")

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> [@](#):
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> His older brother, Dargham, told the BBC today that al-Zaidi had suffered a broken hand, ribs, suffered internal bleeding and sustained an eye injury.
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> According to the BBC, after the incident, al-Zaidi was detained by Iraqi authorities under the command of national security adviser Mowaffaq al-Rubaie, who also said the 28-year-old will be prosecuted under Iraqi law.

If I am ever near our ex-president, I’m totally up for trying to rip his nuts off before the SS gets me.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/29 "2008-12-16T20:38:43Z")

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How will you gain access to Cheney’s trouser pocket?

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/30 "2008-12-16T20:39:21Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> I read somewhere the other day that Seymour Hersh has a slew of whistleblowers ready to spill on January 21.

Can we call them whistleblowers if they hold their water till Jan 21?

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/31 "2008-12-16T20:43:35Z")

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Well, yeah, but as we’ve seen over the last 8 years, anyone who talks is ignored or vilified as crazy traitors. I can’t blame those who want to wait until the Republicans are out of power.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/32 "2008-12-16T20:58:04Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> How will you gain access to Cheney’s trouser pocket?

Good point.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/33 "2008-12-16T23:15:34Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> “So what if guy threw a shoe at me.”
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> That should go on Bush’s headstone.

At the risk of being accused of _lese majeste_ (or whatever the democratic version of that would be): And the sooner, the better!

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/34 "2008-12-16T23:29:43Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> Oprah, on the other hand, will be highly offended.

She’d be inconsolable since they’d not be able to subscribe to her magazine w/o it.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/35 "2008-12-16T23:30:05Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> … _lese majeste_ (or whatever the democratic version of that would be)…

I believe the word you are looking for is _guillotine_.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/36 "2008-12-16T23:34:48Z")

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I just want to see him and his ilk in prison, at best. At worst, that every scrap of information possible aside from the destroyed files and secrets-to-the-grave will be public record, so future historians will have access to it. Bush’s legacy is in the gutter already. I just don’t want to see any revisionist history take root. Bush is doing his best (to revise his dismal history), and I don’t want to see it fly.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/37 "2008-12-17T01:11:55Z")

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About Iraqs WMD

> [@](#):
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> I did not have the luxury of knowing he did not have them, neither did the rest of the world until after we had come and removed him.

Let’s read that again:

> [@](#):
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> I did not have the luxury of knowing he did not have them

Is he really _THAT_ dumb?

I see two possibilities, one that his logic unit is worth shit past its best use date, second that his litlle brain scurried aimlessly, like a cockroach when the lights are turned on, to come up with the lamest imaginable excuse to wash his hands.

I admit it could be both though.  
Bush, too dumb and dishonets to know where the buck is, if there is a buck at all and wheter it has stopped or not.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/38 "2008-12-17T01:18:36Z")

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While we’re at it, [Cheney has finally confessed to war crimes.](http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=6467512&page=1)

> [@](#):
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> Cheney said waterboarding was an appropriate means of getting information from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged mastermind behind the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
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> He was also asked whether he authorized the tactics used against Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
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> “I was aware of the program, certainly, and **involved in helping get the process cleared** , as the agency in effect came in and wanted to know what they could and couldn’t do,” Cheney said. "And they talked to me, as well as others, to explain what they wanted to do. **And I supported it.**"

And:

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> While discussing Bush’s legacy earlier this month, \*\*Rove said he did not believe the administration would have gone to war had intelligence revealed Saddam Hussein did not possess weapons of mass destruction. \*\*
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> “ **I disagree with that,** ” Cheney said Monday. “As I look at the intelligence with respect to Iraq, what they got wrong was that there weren’t any stockpiles.”
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> “What they found was that Saddam Hussein still had the capability to produce weapons of mass destruction. He had the technology, he had the people, he had the basic feed stock.”
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> Cheney added that, given Saddam Hussein’s capabilities, reputation and track record of brutality, “this was a bad actor, and the country’s better off, the world’s better off with Saddam gone, and I think we made the right decision, in spite of the fact that the original NIE was off in some of its major judgments.”

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/39 "2008-12-17T01:48:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Asshole]  
“I did not have the luxury of knowing he did not have them”  
[/QUOTE]  
Shit, the UN inspectors knew, but no one would listen to them.

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**Author:** ![chacoguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@chacoguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chacoguy)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/40 "2008-12-17T01:49:09Z")

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“Oh, and I’m an evil cunt” added the vice president.

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