# Hopefully, my last Bush Bashing pit thread. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 16, 2008, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401 "2008-12-16T15:11:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2008, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/81 "2008-12-29T00:01:20Z")
Originally posted by **Starving Artist** : > [@](#): > > Yep. My only question is how he managed to assemble such an amazingly diverse and thoroughly evil conglomeration of lackeys and supporters in the first place, let alone so quickly. Doesn’t that speak volumes for his ability and organizational talent? He promised them plum government jobs provided they would work for his election. He apparently doesn’t have any useful ability and his organizational talent must be extraordinarily well hidden. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2008, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/82 "2008-12-29T15:14:17Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Not particularly, in my opinion. Far more desirable is the ability to select conpetent advisors, get up to speed quickly on trouble spots, understand them and their concomitant complications, and then take the appropriate action/inaction as the situation dictates. But how does one keep the advisors in line, except by at least some minimal involvment? The approach you describe gave us Rumsfeld, Cheney, and the Iraq invasion, ya know. A lot of people are dead because Bush just didn’t give a damn about his job. > [@](#): > > Rather has been famous as a result of this for decades. I’m surprised you didn’t know it. I’m surprised you weren’t aware of the “unfair test” Rea gave Bush. It was quite widely discussed at the time - at least in the “mainstream media”, which might explain your ignorance of it. > [@](#): > > Well, for one thing an approval rating of 23% doesn’t mean 23% think he’s doing a “great” job - just that overall they approve of the way he’s performing in office. And therefore that even fewer think he’s doing a “great” job. That would be you and Sean Hannity, right? Anybody else you know? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2008, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/83 "2008-12-29T17:03:50Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > In my opinion, judgement, discipline, executive ability, wisdom, etc. are far more important qualities to look for in a presidential candidate. Oh yeah - and you found them in _Bush_, huh? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2008, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401/84 "2008-12-29T18:01:20Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > So deal with it! With luck I’ll be putting the lie to idiotic bullshit like “conservatives send Americans to poverty” :rolleyes: for many, many more years yet. You elected Bush. The man’s been a train wreck. Everything he touches rots and crumbles to dust. Including all the idiotic programs he pushed through Congress with full conservative support. > [@](#): > > Not that old. I’m only somewhat older than **Equipoise** , I’m younger than **Zoe** , and I don’t hear anyone calling them old. (It’s obvious when comes to such as you that “old” is merely a function of politics, anyway.) Dunno about old true, but you’re definitely senile as evidenced by: > [@](#): > > If you truly believe conservatives send Americans to poverty, perhaps you can explain why roughly 50% of Americans vote for them; Uh nope. Obama won in a landslide and there’s alot more demecrats then republicans in the house and senate. lrn2math. > [@](#): > > why the percentage actually in poverty is so relatively small; I live in Michigan. One of the hardest hit states. We have a 10% unemployment rate thanks to way that asslicker you put in office ran the country into the ground. > [@](#): > > why even those Americans in poverty still have bigger and better houses, better cars (or cars at all, for that matter) Cite that all the poor have houses and cars? How about healthcare? > [@](#): > > , and more material possessions and luxuries than most people in other parts of the world; etc., etc., etc. Uh you do know thanks to conservative over 40 million Americans don’t have health care coverage right? Also America has some of the fullest prisons of nonviolent offenders thanks to conservative programs. What do you say about Sweden and Finland? They’re very liberal yet they have some of the happiest and healthiest people in the world. > [@](#): > > And it it isn’t that liberals are rude (plus there’s far more to the issue than mere rudeness). It’s that liberals have created a country where _everybody_ is! Ahh you’re having a senile moment again. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hopefully-my-last-bush-bashing-pit-thread/477401.md?page=4)