# Horrified at the money I've squandered on prostitutes

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 4, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811 "2018-04-04T14:41:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/61 "2018-04-05T15:38:00Z")

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> [@Marcus\_Flavius](#):
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> So if I see the woman I mentioned that I had a nice experience with, say every other month, and pay $150 per visit, would you say I would be spending significantly less money than the typical guy with a girlfriend?

Considering that the typical movie-and-dinner date, even at a modest restaurant and not-the-most-expensive theater, can easily cost $75 for the night and most girlfriends expect a date more frequently than once every two months… yeah, that’s less expensive than a traditional relationship.

From your posts I’m assuming that you’re paying not just for the sex act but some interaction with her before and/or after. Is that correct?

You say that you have minimal social contact with women and that might be so - what do you do for a living that you have so little contact with women?

Personally, I find actual, non-simulated relationships more satisfying but whatever you find that works for you is OK by me, as long as everyone involved is adult and consenting. I also don’t find it troubling to go long periods of time without sex, but then, I’m a middle-aged woman so that’s probably easier for me than it’s ever going to be for you. The problem I’m hearing from you is not so much the money but that you are NOT finding the experiences you’re having satisfying - if you did, maybe you wouldn’t feel the money was “squandered”. Is that also correct?

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/62 "2018-04-05T15:59:07Z")

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This thread reminds me of

> [@George Best](#):
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> I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered.

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**Author:** ![Marcus\_Flavius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Marcus\_Flavius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marcus_Flavius)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/63 "2018-04-05T20:04:29Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> From your posts I’m assuming that you’re paying not just for the sex act but some interaction with her before and/or after. Is that correct?

They usually don’t offer anything other than sex.

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> You say that you have minimal social contact with women and that might be so - what do you do for a living that you have so little contact with women?

I live and work on a military base, but my social interactions with the opposite sex were nearly as limited as when I was in college and surrounded by females.

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> Personally, I find actual, non-simulated relationships more satisfying

I think just about everyone does.

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> The problem I’m hearing from you is not so much the money but that you are NOT finding the experiences you’re having satisfying - if you did, maybe you wouldn’t feel the money was “squandered”. Is that also correct?

Yes, to an extent. I would probably feel a lot less bad about spending all that money if the experiences were highly enjoyable. I sat down and did the math and… God, it’s even worse than I thought. Overall, $1375 spent. I had 9 experiences, 5 of them I would not repeat for free, 3 of them I would repeat, but for a lesser price, and only one of them I would repeat for the full price.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/64 "2018-04-05T20:18:53Z")

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> [@Dangerosa](#):
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> And at that point, don’t be surprised to find that when you don’t NEED a girlfriend for sex, you discover you have a girlfriend - and she is about so much more than sex - because she’s a person who shares your interests and loves your dog and you can have conversations with. And that type of girlfriend you won’t even need to bribe with purses and shoes.

The whole “you’ll find someone when you stop looking” thing doesn’t always work.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/65 "2018-04-05T20:22:47Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> The whole “you’ll find someone when you stop looking” thing doesn’t always work.

It works more often than putting forth the conscious effort to _ **find a partner now!!** _

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/66 "2018-04-06T03:50:12Z")

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> [@Marcus\_Flavius](#):
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> The experience I had with her was indeed a 'girlfriend eexperience, ’ and it was very nice. The only session I’ve ever had with a prostitute that I would be willing to repeat for full price.
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> Most prostitutes do not provide a 'girlfriend experience. ’ Their only concern seems to be getting you to “finish” as quickly as possible then sending you on your way.

Hey Steven Soderbergh. I thought the whole point of going to a prostitute was to avoid the “girlfriend experience”!

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/67 "2018-04-06T03:57:19Z")

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> [@Dangerosa](#):
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> Then find a social hobby. Magic the Gathering. Volunteer work. A book club. A whiskey club. A softball team. A golf league. Your local Star Trek fan club or Confederate reenactment group. Anything where you can practice talking to people - and people - not women. You may discover that as you have more intercourse (in a non-sexual sense) with people, your need for intercourse in a sexual sense diminishes.

I hope so. Since you will literally have zero sex hanging out in any of those groups.

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/68 "2018-04-06T04:19:54Z")

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“Confederate reenactment group sex”

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/69 "2018-04-06T04:33:00Z")

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Thats a civil war in the making, literally.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/70 "2018-04-06T04:40:11Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> It works more often than putting forth the conscious effort to _ **find a partner now!!** _

I couldn’t say; I’ve never known anyone who had to find a partner on such short notice.

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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/71 "2018-04-06T05:18:17Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> It wouldn’t be her fault except for the fact she’s selling her body.

She’s selling a sexual service which she provides with her body. Her body remains hers afterwards.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/72 "2018-04-06T05:19:59Z")

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Kind of a rental?

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/73 "2018-04-06T06:16:12Z")

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> [@Marcus\_Flavius](#):
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> They usually don’t offer anything other than sex.  
> I live and work on a military base, but my social interactions with the opposite sex were nearly as limited as when I was in college and surrounded by females.  
> I think just about everyone does.
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> Yes, to an extent. I would probably feel a lot less bad about spending all that money if the experiences were highly enjoyable. I sat down and did the math and… God, it’s even worse than I thought. Overall, $1375 spent. I had 9 experiences, 5 of them I would not repeat for free, 3 of them I would repeat, but for a lesser price, and only one of them I would repeat for the full price.

Keeping my comments related to prostitution only, I know that the amount of money you’ve spent seems to be significant to you, but at an average of around $150 each, you’re not getting top or even mid-level…providers. I’ve never paid for sex but I’ve been offered it from time to time over the years, and the absolute lowest by an attractive, personable girl was $250 (15 years ago, btw) and that was because it was getting late, we’d already spent some time together and she seemed to like me. I don’t think this was her regular rate. The rest of the women I’ve been propositioned by were good-looking, with sparkling eyes and good personalities, and I would think that if I were planning to indulge myself with paid sex with an attractive and personable girl I’d budget at least $400, plus maybe another $100 - $150 tip if she was good and I might want to see her again. At this rate or more I would imagine you’d be in for a more rewarding experience in terms of both looks and in not being rushed through the experience, as I imagine girls in that price range are wanting to cultivate regular customers. But again, keep in mind that this is all supposition and I’m not speaking from experience. It’s also possible that my experiences were unique and that even $300 - $500 these days won’t buy that great of a time, but still you get the idea. The more money you spend, the better quality girl and better quality experience you’re likely to have. And the money you’ve been spending really isn’t that much from a prostitute’s perspective, so you’re drawing girls from almost the bottom of the pool, maybe one step up from strung out streetwalkers.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/74 "2018-04-06T09:44:23Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I couldn’t say; I’ve never known anyone who had to find a partner on such short notice.

I havent known them either but i see their dating profiles. 😉

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/75 "2018-04-06T09:58:43Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I couldn’t say; I’ve never known anyone who had to find a partner on such short notice.

I have and we all ran away as far and as fast as we could. A man on a ticking biological clock is a scary, scary thing.

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**Author:** ![Marcus\_Flavius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Marcus\_Flavius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marcus_Flavius)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/76 "2018-04-06T12:15:07Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Keeping my comments related to prostitution only, I know that the amount of money you’ve spent seems to be significant to you, but at an average of around $150 each, you’re not getting top or even mid-level…providers. I’ve never paid for sex but I’ve been offered it from time to time over the years, and the absolute lowest by an attractive, personable girl was $250 (15 years ago, btw) and that was because it was getting late, we’d already spent some time together and she seemed to like me. I don’t think this was her regular rate. The rest of the women I’ve been propositioned by were good-looking, with sparkling eyes and good personalities, and I would think that if I were planning to indulge myself with paid sex with an attractive and personable girl I’d budget at least $400, plus maybe another $100 - $150 tip if she was good and I might want to see her again. At this rate or more I would imagine you’d be in for a more rewarding experience in terms of both looks and in not being rushed through the experience, as I imagine girls in that price range are wanting to cultivate regular customers. But again, keep in mind that this is all supposition and I’m not speaking from experience. It’s also possible that my experiences were unique and that even $300 - $500 these days won’t buy that great of a time, but still you get the idea. The more money you spend, the better quality girl and better quality experience you’re likely to have. And the money you’ve been spending really isn’t that much from a prostitute’s perspective, so you’re drawing girls from almost the bottom of the pool, maybe one step up from strung out streetwalkers.

HUH? $150-$200 is a lot of damn money. Think about how long these girls would have to slave at McDonald’s, or Walgreens, or Ross to make that kind of money.

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**Author:** ![Marcus\_Flavius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Marcus\_Flavius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marcus_Flavius)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/77 "2018-04-06T12:19:52Z")

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> [@ruadh](#):
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> She’s selling a sexual service which she provides with her body. Her body remains hers afterwards.

Exactly. I get so incredibly irritated every time I hear prostitutes “sell their bodies.”

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**Author:** ![Marcus\_Flavius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Marcus\_Flavius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marcus_Flavius)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/78 "2018-04-06T12:24:00Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Hey Steven Soderbergh. I thought the whole point of going to a prostitute was to avoid the “girlfriend experience”!

Not the girlfriend exexperience but the girlfriend _hassle._

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/79 "2018-04-06T12:56:51Z")

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> [@Marcus\_Flavius](#):
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> HUH? $150-$200 is a lot of damn money. Think about how long these girls would have to slave at McDonald’s, or Walgreens, or Ross to make that kind of money.

Of course, working at McDonald’s you don’t have to worry about the threat of violence, police arresting you, johns beating the shit out of you, STD’s, and the occasional need for an abortion… Also, if there’s a pimp involved she’s not keeping much of that $150-200

Fact, is, McDonald’s is the bottom-of-the-barrel for jobs, too.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/80 "2018-04-06T13:20:25Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> if I were planning to indulge myself with paid sex with an attractive and personable girl I’d budget at least $400, plus maybe another $100 - $150 tip if she was good and I might want to see her again.

\<post doorhinged\>

I’m a straight guy, but I’m clean, disease free, and offer witty repartee.

So, wanna party later?

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