# Horrified at the money I've squandered on prostitutes **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 4, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811 "2018-04-04T14:41:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/81 "2018-04-06T13:28:34Z")
> [@Marcus\_Flavius](#): > > HUH? $150-$200 is a lot of damn money. Think about how long these girls would have to slave at McDonald’s, or Walgreens, or Ross to make that kind of money. I think you have just found some new pick up joints. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/82 "2018-04-06T13:37:35Z")
Mother Thumb and her four daughters are not only free, they’re STD-free. Use them until you’re in a real relationship. Try to be the kind of person that someone else would want to be with. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/83 "2018-04-06T14:27:23Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > The whole “you’ll find someone when you stop looking” thing doesn’t always work. No, it doesn’t, but if you stop needing it, and it happens, it happens. And if it doesn’t, you at least don’t need it any longer. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/84 "2018-04-06T14:43:10Z")
> [@Marcus\_Flavius](#): > > Exactly. I get so incredibly irritated every time I hear prostitutes “sell their bodies.” That’s kinda nit-pickyish. Everyone knows what that means. I didn’t coin it. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/85 "2018-04-06T14:45:32Z")
> [@Marcus\_Flavius](#): > > HUH? $150-$200 is a lot of damn money. Think about how long these girls would have to slave at McDonald’s, or Walgreens, or Ross to make that kind of money. On of the problems with work like this is that it isn’t consistent. Yeah, they’ll make $200 for half an hour or an hour with you, but they’ll maybe pick up one or two guys that night, and on many nights they won’t pick up anyone. If they are on the street or working through the internet, they are likely to have most of that money going to a pimp. If they are run out of a house, the house takes a cut. If they are solo, in a city of any size whatsoever, they’ll get the shit beat out of them by the guys running girls. And its hard, unpleasant work. A lot of the Johns are not exactly Channing Tatum. Many have issues with women and will take it out on you - not enough to get in trouble with your pimp, but in ways that are painful. At a certain age, your “career” is over - and you are unlikely to have developed skills that give you options. I have friends of friends who have been in the trade - don’t fool yourself - most of these women have PROBLEMS. Every women I know who did this had been sexually abused as a child by a relative. This might not be the case if you are in a place where its legal - but if you are talking about the U.S. Midwest, most of those girls are not doing it because its a choice - even while they tell themselves its better than working at McDonalds. There are women for whom sex work is a choice - and even a good career option. Those aren’t the women you are seeing. You are not doing them a favor, you are not helping them make a decent living. You are putting your dick in another human being for your own satisfaction, and her part of the equation is usually “this is how I keep a roof over my head and eat - and not get the shit beat out of me - but hey, this is how I grew up and I’m used to it by now.” ---
**Author:** ![Marcus\_Flavius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Marcus\_Flavius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marcus_Flavius)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/86 "2018-04-06T15:39:54Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > On of the problems with work like this is that it isn’t consistent. Yeah, they’ll make $200 for half an hour or an hour with you, but they’ll maybe pick up one or two guys that night, and on many nights they won’t pick up anyone. > > If they are on the street or working through the internet, they are likely to have most of that money going to a pimp. If they are run out of a house, the house takes a cut. If they are solo, in a city of any size whatsoever, they’ll get the shit beat out of them by the guys running girls. > > And its hard, unpleasant work. A lot of the Johns are not exactly Channing Tatum. Many have issues with women and will take it out on you - not enough to get in trouble with your pimp, but in ways that are painful. At a certain age, your “career” is over - and you are unlikely to have developed skills that give you options. > > I have friends of friends who have been in the trade - don’t fool yourself - most of these women have PROBLEMS. Every women I know who did this had been sexually abused as a child by a relative. This might not be the case if you are in a place where its legal - but if you are talking about the U.S. Midwest, most of those girls are not doing it because its a choice - even while they tell themselves its better than working at McDonalds. > > There are women for whom sex work is a choice - and even a good career option. Those aren’t the women you are seeing. You are not doing them a favor, you are not helping them make a decent living. You are putting your dick in another human being for your own satisfaction, and her part of the equation is usually “this is how I keep a roof over my head and eat - and not get the shit beat out of me - but hey, this is how I grew up and I’m used to it by now.” Unless a woman is kidnapped, beaten, chained up, and made to service men under the threat of punishment, prostitution is **always** a choice- whether they’re doing it to buy a brand new luxury vehicle or to save their children from starvation doesn’t change that. We all work out of economic necessity, prostitutes are not special in that regard. Yes, some of them despise their job and wish they could quit, but can’t because of economic necessity. So what? How does that .make them different from the millions of other people in other forms of work who despise their job and wish they could quit, but can’t because of economic necessity? Sex and physical intimacy are very powerful human desires. Sex work is not inherently more exploitative, degrading, or shameful than other forms of work. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/87 "2018-04-06T16:00:42Z")
You vastly overestimate the amount of power and choice a woman who has been sexual abused since childhood and ran away at fourteen has in her life. You don’t have enough conversation with these women to know how much of this is coercion and how much is choice, but I’m going to guess that very few women are turning $150 tricks in Kansas City from choice (a bus ticket to Vegas is $150 - a much better city for the sex worker by choice). Other powerful human desires are not getting the shit kicked out of you and eating. You are paying someone to meet your desire for sex, they may be providing it so they can eat, or not wind up in the hospital. That isn’t exactly an equal or moral exchange of goods. If you think this is easy work, go turn some tricks and see how you like it - men also work the sex trade by choice (as well as coercion) - you’d get your need for sex and intimacy met, and put a few bucks in your pocket. (And I’m not anti-sex worker - I think it should be legalized because its so abused when its all done illegally). ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/88 "2018-04-06T16:20:22Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > If you think this is easy work, go turn some tricks and see how you like it - men also work the sex trade by choice (as well as coercion) - you’d get your need for sex and intimacy met, and put a few bucks in your pocket Do you know of any places where a guy can go have sex with women and get paid for it? I have some free time. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/89 "2018-04-06T18:08:17Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Do you know of any places where a guy can go have sex with women and get paid for it? I have some free time. Put a listing out there and see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/90 "2018-04-06T18:22:18Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Put a listing out there and see what happens. Sorry. I believe solicitation like that is illegal. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/91 "2018-04-06T18:27:11Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Sorry. I believe solicitation like that is illegal. Buzz kill. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/92 "2018-04-06T18:34:58Z")
:D:cool: ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/93 "2018-04-06T18:47:05Z")
^^Hey, you two are harshing on my day dream! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/94 "2018-04-06T19:07:34Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > ^^Hey, you two are harshing on my day dream! Hoping to pimp out your husband? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/95 "2018-04-06T19:22:53Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Do you know of any places where a guy can go have sex with women and get paid for it? I have some free time. Cemetery porn. They are hiring. ---
**Author:** ![Grim\_Render](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@Grim\_Render](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grim_Render)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/96 "2018-04-06T19:31:28Z")
I can see how a prostitute would seem like a good option. You don’t have to put yourself out there, don’t need to make yourself vulnerable, and don’t have to deal with the fact that the vast number of times you do that you’ll be rejected. Additionally you can run up some big bills dating without ever getting laid. And if you were 24 before losing your cherry, I can see that waiting for something to click probably got old. Just buying straight sex without the emotional cost probably seems like a good deal. However, a woman you actually like as a person goes up 2-3 points on the 1 - 10 scale. There is also the issue of marginal returns -once a woman has sex with you for fun, her threshold for having more sex with you drops immensely. My advice to you is to take your frustrations to the gym for a while. > [@Slash1972](#): > > Do you know of any places where a guy can go have sex with women and get paid for it? I have some free time. generally its a “locals know” thing. Much less organized than the other way around. I know it used to be a bar/nightclub locally. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/97 "2018-04-06T19:37:11Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > This thread reminds me of > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by George Best > > I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. I dunno, it kinda reminds me of post 29 in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/98 "2018-04-06T19:40:58Z")
As for the OP, the real problem isn’t the money, it’s that you’re not happy in your life, with yourself. At the risk of sounding like a self-help banner, happiness can only come from within. Use hookers, don’t, whatever. Just own your choices and stop agonizing over them. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/99 "2018-04-06T19:53:55Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Hoping to pimp out your husband? Yeah, no that’s not exactly what I had in mind.😉 ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/100 "2018-04-06T19:55:44Z")
> [@Marcus\_Flavius](#): > > Unless a woman is kidnapped, beaten, chained up, and made to service men under the threat of punishment, prostitution is **always** a choice- whether they’re doing it to buy a brand new luxury vehicle or to save their children from starvation doesn’t change that. We all work out of economic necessity, prostitutes are not special in that regard. Yes, some of them despise their job and wish they could quit, but can’t because of economic necessity. So what? How does that .make them different from the millions of other people in other forms of work who despise their job and wish they could quit, but can’t because of economic necessity? > > Sex and physical intimacy are very powerful human desires. Sex work is not inherently more exploitative, degrading, or shameful than other forms of work. You are making assumptions without actually knowing how human trafficking works. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811.md?page=6)