# Horrified at the money I've squandered on prostitutes

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 4, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811 "2018-04-04T14:41:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/101 "2018-04-06T19:57:26Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Yeah, no that’s not exactly what I had in mind.😉

Er, hiring **manson1972** then?

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/102 "2018-04-06T21:29:48Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> You are making assumptions without actually knowing how human trafficking works.

It’s amazing how men can come up with the most convoluted rationalizations to justify using prostitutes. Then some of them imagine the pro actually likes them, and they fall in love with them.

I guess that’s how the industry keeps going.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/103 "2018-04-06T22:43:14Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> …and they fall in love with them.

Some of the girls I mentioned in my post above were very attractive, friendly and appealing, both physically and in their personalities. If they hadn’t been offering themselves after a time and giving a price I’d have never guessed. It would be easy to fall in love with one of them, and I can think of few things less punishing than to be in love with a prostitute. I’ve also wondered sometimes how much of a hassle it is for prostitutes to have to deal with guys who have fallen in love with them. I realize they’ll be inclined to play them as much as possible for the money, but still it’s got to be tiresome and a hassle.

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**Author:** ![Marcus\_Flavius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Marcus\_Flavius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marcus_Flavius)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/104 "2018-04-06T23:16:32Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> You are making assumptions without actually knowing how human trafficking works.

"Human trafficking " is yet another far overblown, if not outright fabricated, femminist-puritanical moral panic of our times. Along with “pedophilia,” “child sex rings,” and the supposed "rape epidemic " on college campuses and elsewhere.

Indeed, "human trafficking " has become a completely meaningless phrase.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/105 "2018-04-06T23:29:54Z")

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> [@Marcus\_Flavius](#):
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> "Human trafficking " is yet another far overblown, if not outright fabricated, femminist-puritanical moral panic of our times. Along with “pedophilia,” “child sex rings,” and the supposed "rape epidemic " on college campuses and elsewhere.

I think I understand now why you have to pay women hundreds of dollars to get them to fuck you.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/106 "2018-04-06T23:37:16Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> I think I understand now why you have to pay women hundreds of dollars to get them to fuck you.

Yeah, it’s coming into focus.

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**Author:** ![Marcus\_Flavius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Marcus\_Flavius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marcus_Flavius)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/107 "2018-04-07T00:06:24Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> I think I understand now why you have to pay women hundreds of dollars to get them to fuck you.

Yeah I’m a bad guy. \*That’s \* why women won’t lay me. And we all know “bad” men _never, ever_ get laid.

Whatever dude.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/108 "2018-04-07T00:13:59Z")

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The guy whose comments about sex trafficking that you were dismissing is a police officer and heundoubtedly knows more about than you do. Why are you sking for advice when all you do is reject every bit of advice you get?

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**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/109 "2018-04-07T00:14:21Z")

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> [@Marcus\_Flavius](#):
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> "Human trafficking " is yet another far overblown, if not outright fabricated, femminist-puritanical moral panic of our times. Along with “pedophilia,” “child sex rings,” and the supposed "rape epidemic " on college campuses and elsewhere.
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> Indeed, "human trafficking " has become a completely meaningless phrase.

Ah now this all makes sense.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/110 "2018-04-07T00:22:59Z")

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Ha ha judging by my last post apples talk to text needs a little work

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**Author:** ![Marcus\_Flavius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Marcus\_Flavius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marcus_Flavius)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/111 "2018-04-07T00:42:29Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> The guy whose comments about sex trafficking that you were dismissing is a police officer and heundoubtedly knows more about than you do. Why are you sking for advice when all you do is reject every bit of advice you get?

Because the ‘advice’ people give to males in my position is typically not very useful/valuable. But now I understand that I’m a terrible person unworthy of love or affection from the opposite sex, or indeed anyone. I’m working towards accepting this fact so I can finally make peace with my fate.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/112 "2018-04-07T00:58:55Z")

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Well, I wouldn’t take any of that seriously if I were you. For some reason snark is a point of pride on this board and people often try to be as negative and insulting as possible here, and they certainly have no credentials whatever in armchair analysis. So again I wouldn’t pay much attention to all that if I were you. But others of us have tried to offer advise as to how you might up your game with prostitutes and to put the cost in perspective and you’ve been scornful and dismissive of us too. So bottom line is we’re pretty much at a loss as to what we might have to offer going forward.

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**Author:** ![Marcus\_Flavius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Marcus\_Flavius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marcus_Flavius)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/113 "2018-04-07T01:02:32Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Well, I wouldn’t take any of that seriously if I were you. For some reason snark is a point of pride on this board and people often try to be as negative and insulting as possible here, and they certainly have no credentials whatever in armchair analysis. So again I wouldn’t pay much attention to all that if I were you. But others of us have tried to offer advise as to how you might up your game with prostitutes and to put the cost in perspective and you’ve been scornful and dismissive of us too. So bottom line is we’re pretty much at a loss as to what we might have to offer going forward.

I already know what I need to do- never again waste a single dime on prostitutes, because it’s a massive gamble every time, and even if I do walk away highly pleased with the experience, I’ll still be empty handed.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/114 "2018-04-07T01:13:24Z")

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> [@Marcus\_Flavius](#):
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> Because the ‘advice’ people give to males in my position is typically not very useful/valuable. But now I understand that I’m a terrible person unworthy of love or affection from the opposite sex, or indeed anyone. I’m working towards accepting this fact so I can finally make peace with my fate.

I think most people advised you to find some new hobbies where you could meet people, and generally chill just a bit. Most people also told you that there’s more to a relationship than sex, and the “more” is pretty darn awesome and worth looking for.

Where you’re going off the rails is saying that human trafficking doesn’t happen, or that women don’t get raped on college campuses. If you hold that line, you’re not going to get a lot of support.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/115 "2018-04-07T01:15:18Z")

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> [@Marcus\_Flavius](#):
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> I already know what I need to do- never again waste a single dime on prostitutes, because it’s a massive gamble every time, and even if I do walk away highly pleased with the experience, I’ll still be empty handed.

True.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/116 "2018-04-07T01:16:28Z")

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> [@Marcus\_Flavius](#):
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> I already know what I need to do- never again waste a single dime on prostitutes, because it’s a massive gamble every time, and even if I do walk away highly pleased with the experience, I’ll still be empty handed.

So what sort of responses were you hoping to get from this OP?

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**Author:** ![Marcus\_Flavius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Marcus\_Flavius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marcus_Flavius)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/117 "2018-04-07T01:25:58Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> I think most people advised you to find some new hobbies where you could meet people,

When I was in college I played basketball almost daily at the gym with other guys, even participated in tournaments. Didn’t lead to e finding a mate, or even a friend.

> [@](#):
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> and generally chill just a bit.

I’m actually a _very_ relaxed, calm, laid back guy in real life. In fact, my nickname growing up was “Buddha.”

> [@](#):
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> Most people also told you that there’s more to a relationship than sex, and the “more” is pretty darn awesome and worth looking for.

Yes, I realize this. If all I wanted was sexual release- hell that can be done with a hand.

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> Where you’re going off the rails is saying that human trafficking doesn’t happen, or that women don’t get raped on college campuses. If you hold that line, you’re not going to get a lot of support.

I’m not saying these things never happen, or that it’s not abhorrent when it _does_ happen. Merely that the frequency of these things happening is _greatly_ exaggerated to serve an agenda.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/118 "2018-04-07T01:30:27Z")

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> [@Marcus\_Flavius](#):
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> Yes, I realize this. If all I wanted was sexual release- hell that can be done with a hand.

So does this mean you were seeking a sense of companionship when you had sex with these prostitutes?

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/119 "2018-04-07T01:37:36Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I couldn’t say; I’ve never known anyone who had to find a partner on such short notice.

I worked with a guy desperate to find someone now.

> [@Nava](#):
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> I have and we all ran away as far and as fast as we could. A man on a ticking biological clock is a scary, scary thing.

I was married, and he respected that. But yeah. Pretty scary. He once commented that married women seemed much friendlier to him than single women, and we sorta tried to explain he was scaring them away…

> [@Marcus\_Flavius](#):
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> "Human trafficking " is yet another far overblown, if not outright fabricated, femminist-puritanical moral panic of our times. Along with “pedophilia,” “child sex rings,” and the supposed "rape epidemic " on college campuses and elsewhere.
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> Indeed, "human trafficking " has become a completely meaningless phrase.

Oh wow. I was going to give you advise. Now I’m not sure i want to. But i guess i already composed it, so what the hell…

> [@Dangerosa](#):
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> …  
> Then find a social hobby. Magic the Gathering. Volunteer work. A book club. A whiskey club. A softball team. A golf league. Your local Star Trek fan club or Confederate reenactment group. Anything where you can practice talking to people - and people - not women. You may discover that as you have more intercourse (in a non-sexual sense) with people, your need for intercourse in a sexual sense diminishes.  
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Dangerosa gave excellent advise about how to find friends and non-sexual companionship. But i get it, you want to meet women. And those are all predominantly male hobbies.

So once you have a couple of friends, and you’ve exercised your right hand, and you aren’t feeling so desperate, I recommend you try out some activities where you will find women.

Volunteer at a soup kitchen.  
Take up yoga, or aerobic dance, or Zumba.  
Go to a local political thing, where folks will volunteer to collect signatures.  
Check out “social action” groups, things like “active responder training”, or groups trying to integrate the neighborhood.  
Get a small, cute dog and walk it at the local place.  
Join a local house of worship and volunteer through them.  
Volunteer at the library, it at an animal shelter.  
Take a cooking class.

Ideally, pick something you’ll actually enjoy. That way, if you don’t meet women, at least you’ll enjoy yourself. But try to find a fun activity that might attract women, too.

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**Author:** ![Marcus\_Flavius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Marcus\_Flavius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marcus_Flavius)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horrified-at-the-money-ive-squandered-on-prostitutes/811811/120 "2018-04-07T01:48:30Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> So does this mean you were seeking a sense of companionship when you had sex with these prostitutes?

Subconsciously, yes.

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