# Horse Racing Question

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horse-racing-question/80410>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 8, 2001, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horse-racing-question/80410 "2001-09-08T16:04:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2001, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horse-racing-question/80410/21 "2001-09-10T23:27:41Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SteverinoAlaReno \*  
> \*\*Gazoo, I don’t think a stud covers more than one mare a day. From what I remember, a mare will be brought to a stud, and he’ll cover her twice in one day: once in the morning, once in the afternoon. There’s a few days’ rest between bookings for a stud, too. Even so, stud service is a good way to make money…for the owner and the horse 🙂
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> (Like Secretariat said, “They’re paying 8 million bucks and all I gotta do is _that_?”) \*\*

This is my impression also. I seem to recall a book about Robert Sangster, who is once in partnership with John Magnier of the Coolmore operation in Ireland. One party suggested a book of 100 mares per year for a particular stallion, and this is regarded as a little on the high side.

I will be corrected here if I am wrong, but 80 mares per year sounds about right, or about 2 mares every 9 days. If we allow the stallion Christmas, New Year, Thanksgiving etc for a holiday, and give him a vacation or two as well, this means one mare every 4 days.

Nice work, if you can get it. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Ruffian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71e660/32.png) [@Ruffian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruffian)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2001, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horse-racing-question/80410/22 "2001-09-10T23:37:09Z")

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I agree, **don’t ask**. Prices are climbing, climbing, climbing…a fallout is inevitable. FuPeg’s outrageously high stud fee–and ones like it for freshmen sires–beckon it.

Some more news from the breeding industry (as reported in _The Daily Racing Form Online_):

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[li] **Point Given** has been retired due to a tendon injury. He was sold for $50 million (!!!) and will stand for $125,000 (!!!) at Three Chimneys.[/li]  
[li] **Giant’s Causeway** will be standing at Coolmore America next year, transferring from his Coolmore Ireland current “workplace” to the Ashford Stud that stands the previously mentioned Fusaichi Pegasus. A stud fee in the realm of $125,000 is anticipated.[/li]  
[li] **AP Indy** ’s stud fee was increased to $300,000.[/li][/ul]

Hot new horse or not, I find it an _extremely_ risky investment to pay six figures to breed to an unproven stud.

**Steverino and Nostradamus** –some stallions will cover more than one mare a day, particularly in Japan. (This practice is typically frowned upon in most of the breeding industry.) Their jaw-droppingly successful stallion **Sunday Silence** , the 1989 Kentucky Derby winner, covers ridiculous numbers of mares–like 140 a year! I read an article about him a few months back (he’s one of my favs), and was astounded at how over-bred he was. Their attitude was, “He’s willing and they’re paying.” I fear such an attitude is going to start causing serious complications in a few years–with overbreeding! Sunday Silence foals are _everywhere_ in Japan. Seriously, be careful when opening your hotel closet when vacationing–a few might just pour out.

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**Author:** ![Ruffian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71e660/32.png) [@Ruffian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruffian)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2001, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/horse-racing-question/80410/23 "2001-09-10T23:38:52Z")

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Whoop…just so I’m clear, I was not grouping **AP Indy** with the unproven freshmen sires–I just listed his stud fee because it’s increase relates to this thread.

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