# Hostile Dialect; A Word, Please. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 27, 2008, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375 "2008-08-27T01:53:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/1 "2008-08-27T01:53:14Z")
Are you fucking serious here, or what? [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=480907&page=3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=480907&page=3) [QUOTE=Hostile Dialect] But…you should threadshit? Dude, if you have no interest in fighting your ignorance, and you’re just here to point and laugh, why are you here at all? [Edit: Excessively snarky add-on removed.] [/QUOTE] Do you want to tell me how I can threadshit in a thread that is generally about…shit? It might be shit you and others are into in a very big way, but let’s have it right, it’s still shit. Do you think you are any less open to scorn than “Trekkies” or any other grown-up that over-indulges in a fictionalised world, to the point of ridicule by his fellow man and woman? Fuck me, you “furries” sure are a sensitive bunch! ---
**Author:** ![freekalette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/50afbb/32.png) [@freekalette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freekalette)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/2 "2008-08-27T02:12:42Z")
Lame Pitting, if only for excessive use of the word “shit”. You threadshat and **HD** responded much nicer than I would have, had I gotten to your post sooner. It’s not about sensitivity, it’s about RESPECT. (Google it, I’ll wait.) So you don’t understand furries; most people don’t. Hence, you know, the thread dedicated to discussion and learning. That’s what the Dope is for. Why should ANY group of fiction-lovers be scorned, be they furries or Trekkies or anybody else? If they aren’t hurting you, then just leave them alone. Don’t open the thread. Or are you just that desperate to stir up trouble, and the linked thread was the easiest target? Hmmm… ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/3 "2008-08-27T02:13:38Z")
Look, I think the whole thing is fuckin’ weird and honestly it creeps the hell out of me, but it’s not harming anyone and if it’s someone’s lifestyle, there’s no reason to just dismiss it as “shit.” I mean, if you have some kind of objection to it, at least be more specific. Just because you don’t like it, doesn’t give you the right to trash it for no reason in a thread that’s specifically intended for the people that do like it. ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/4 "2008-08-27T02:15:00Z")
I tell you what, why don’t you go the The Game Room and make inane remarks like > [@ivan astikov](#): > > - wanders up and down thread, shaking head with bemusement \* > > Call me old fashioned, but… in some of the sports threads and see what kind of response you get. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/5 "2008-08-27T02:26:00Z")
Call him gay but in denial. That’ll be good for some laughs. ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/6 "2008-08-27T02:27:14Z")
Fuck me, you sure are a sensitive Doper. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/7 "2008-08-27T02:30:59Z")
I know, I should have put quotation marks around my shit. I didn’t mean ‘shit’, as in excrement, I meant shit as in “shit”, you know, the ‘stuff’ that we are all into. And so, I made a flippant comment in a thread that wasn’t dealing in anything of any real importance - although nonetheless, still interesting from a psychological pov - and someone gets all uppity, and has to make a point of my presence in the thread, for some petty point scoring purpose. I thought I was being the model of good behaviour by bringing my injured pride to The Pit, however lame you think my reason may be, and I still think you "furries"are a tad sensitive. ---
**Author:** ![freekalette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/50afbb/32.png) [@freekalette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freekalette)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/8 "2008-08-27T02:41:55Z")
Care to explain how furrydom isn’t “anything of any real importance”? I mean, it’s got no personal resonance with me, as I’m not a furry. But as someone who holds certain traits and ideas very dear, I can fully understand how it would be important to folks like **Silver Tyger Girl**. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/9 "2008-08-27T02:44:17Z")
[QUOTE=Argent Towers] Look, I think the whole thing is fuckin’ weird and honestly it creeps the hell out of me, but it’s not harming anyone and if it’s someone’s lifestyle, there’s no reason to just dismiss it as “shit.” [/quote] Why not? I think country music and romance novels are shit. Why does talking animal porn deserve any more respect. No, it’s not hurting anyone, but that doesn’t mean it’s entitled to respect. I used to be a big metalhead with the long hair, leather jackets, studded belts, the whole bit. Looking back, I realize the look was kind of retarded even though I still like the music. I still didn’t go around acting like I was a persecuted minority because people thought I looked like an idiot. I say, if you’re going to dress like a chipmunk, you have to accept that people are going to mock you. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/10 "2008-08-27T02:50:42Z")
Look, I agree - it’s fucked up. And yeah, people out to not have a thin skin about it. But really, there’s no reason to just rag on it for no reason in a thread specifically for people who _are_ into it. ETA - do you have a picture from your metal head days? I would love to see that. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/11 "2008-08-27T03:01:18Z")
Sorry, no linkable pics. That was before the digital age. I have some old snaps around and a videotaped concert or two (I played guitar and sang for a few bands). They’re embarrassing to look at, and they’re deep in storage. My kids will find those videos one day and laugh at me. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/12 "2008-08-27T03:03:40Z")
[QUOTE=Argent Towers] Look, I agree - it’s fucked up. And yeah, people out to not have a thin skin about it. But really, there’s no reason to just rag on it for no reason in a thread specifically for people who _are_ into it. ETA - do you have a picture from your metal head days? I would love to see that. [/QUOTE] But I didn’t “rag” on their pastime. All I did was made a couple of “Shucks. You kids.” kind of remarks, without any venom at all, and next minute I’m being attacked by a rabid furfanboy. At least I didn’t take the piss mercilessly, which is about what they merit. Anyway if those fancy dress wearing fur-freaks want a fight, bring it on…I reckon I could take at least 15-20 of them in a sitting. I’m sure they can’t move about very well in those costumes. ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/13 "2008-08-27T03:04:09Z")
[QUOTE=LurkMeister] I tell you what, why don’t you go the The Game Room and make inane remarks like in some of the sports threads and see what kind of response you get. [/QUOTE] Superb point. Excellently made. I think the thread in question is a perfectly fascinating discussion, and IMO, Ivan, your inane posts in that thread are all 100% threadshitting. As HD said, if you’re not interested in having your ignorance fought, then don’t bother to post to a thread, eh. Nobody with a hobby, posting in their hobby thread, is thrilled to see a non-hobbyist come in and post, “Eh, you guys are all nuts”, or words to that effect. Not only Lame Pitting, but Wrong Person Being Pitted. ETA: for those of you who evidently aren’t getting it–this would be you, DtC–the point is not whether a topic, or hobby, may be judged intrinsically silly by bystanders; the point is that a thread discussing a topic, or hobby, on the Straight Dope Message Board, is, according to the rules, entitled to be accorded respect by bystanders, which would include not posting snotty, snide, inane, or mocking remarks in the middle of said hobbyists’ discussion. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/14 "2008-08-27T03:11:55Z")
You know, I am going to look at anyone with an animal in their name with deep suspicion, from now on. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/15 "2008-08-27T03:16:39Z")
[QUOTE=Duck Duck Goose] ETA: for those of you who evidently aren’t getting it–this would be you, DtC–the point is not whether a topic, or hobby, may be judged intrinsically silly by bystanders; the point is that a thread discussing a topic, or hobby, on the Straight Dope Message Board, is, according to the rules, entitled to be accorded respect by bystanders, which would include not posting snotty, snide, inane, or mocking remarks in the middle of said hobbyists’ discussion. [/QUOTE] If it will make anyone feel any better, I’m more than happy to join in on mocking **Diogenes** for any number of reasons. Where shall we start? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/16 "2008-08-27T03:18:50Z")
[QUOTE=Sarahfeena] If it will make anyone feel any better, I’m more than happy to join in on mocking **Diogenes** for any number of reasons. Where shall we start? 😉 [/QUOTE] Before you join in, state your allegiance: are you straight, “furry” or neutral. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/17 "2008-08-27T03:20:31Z")
[QUOTE=ivan astikov] Before you join in, state your allegiance: are you straight, “furry” or neutral. 🙂 [/QUOTE] I wouldn’t touch that with a 10-foot pole! ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/18 "2008-08-27T03:31:57Z")
I wouldn’t even touch it with an eight foot Norwegian. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/19 "2008-08-27T03:33:58Z")
How about an 11 foot Czech? ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/20 "2008-08-27T03:35:42Z")
I’m not sure what either of you mean, but here’s my guess at the demographic so far; Sarahfeena = “Furry” freekalette = “Furry” LurkMeister = “Furry” Kythereia = neutral Bryan Ekers = “Furry” Duck Duck Goose = “Definite Furry” even got the animal name bit. Diogenes the Cynic = straight Argent Towers = straight [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375.md?page=2)