# Hostile Dialect; A Word, Please.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 27, 2008, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375 "2008-08-27T01:53:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/261 "2008-08-28T09:04:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Furry Article]  
Peter, Bjorn and John’s “Young Folks” blasts over the JBL speakers lined along the front of the hotel ballroom. Underneath the dimmed lights, a giant gray rabbit, a dark red fox and a spotted floppy dog bop back and forth to the beat, their massive fur-covered feet plopping heavily on the portable wooden dance floor. To the left of them, a cheetah and puma grasp each other’s paws as they sway together in time to the music. The dance floor is crowded with dozens of tall furry creatures: cats, raccoons, possums, skunks, bears and bulls, all gyrating their giant bodies to the music spun by a live deejay.  
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hahaha

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/262 "2008-08-28T09:16:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Telperien]  
To be fair, around here, one’s dickhead radar doesn’t need to be all that sensitive to pick things up.  
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And some have their settings wrongly aligned, so they are picking up their own signal.

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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/263 "2008-08-28T09:18:28Z")

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[QUOTE=5-HT]  
hahaha  
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Holy fucking LOL!

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/264 "2008-08-28T09:24:26Z")

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> Originally Posted by Furry Article  
> Peter, Bjorn and John’s “Young Folks” blasts over the JBL speakers lined along the front of the hotel ballroom. Underneath the dimmed lights, a giant gray rabbit, a dark red fox and a spotted floppy dog bop back and forth to the beat, their massive fur-covered feet plopping heavily on the portable wooden dance floor. To the left of them, a cheetah and puma grasp each other’s paws as they sway together in time to the music. The dance floor is crowded with dozens of tall furry creatures: cats, raccoons, possums, skunks, bears and bulls, all gyrating their giant bodies to the music spun by a live deejay.

That’s just completely sold “Furry-ism” to me. Do you think they’ll let me back in the “Furry Doper’s” thread to ask when their next planned knees-up will be? ?

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/265 "2008-08-28T09:28:22Z")

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Btw, what does being a “Furry” skunk say about a persons self-image? Are they just trying to hide a bad B.O. problem?

(Damn, I could have stuck that in the edit window. Soz for taking up valuable space, gang. )

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/266 "2008-08-28T09:32:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Measure for Measure]

In the Rust survey, only 2% identified themselves as zoophiles and less than 1% were plushphiles.  
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Plushphiles.

Okay, laughing like a loon. I’ve coasted down to mere hiccuping chuckles but…plushphiles? I finally understand the longevity of those cheesy Make-A-Bear mall places.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/267 "2008-08-28T09:39:35Z")

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[QUOTE=TVeblen]  
Plushphiles.

Okay, laughing like a loon. I’ve coasted down to mere hiccuping chuckles but…plushphiles? I finally understand the longevity of those cheesy Make-A-Bear mall places.  
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I think there is a sub-set of “animal-shaped cushion-o-philes”, that are currently making a bid for dominance within that realm.

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/268 "2008-08-28T10:09:37Z")

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[QUOTE=j666]  
That’s one of the neatest updates on an antiquated expression I’ve seen; did you create it?  
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Sorry I didn’t reply to this earlier, **j666**. Yeah, hogging the fast lane seemed the closest modern analogy to scaring the horses. It sure doesn’t flow off the tongue though.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/269 "2008-08-28T13:49:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
I didn’t know what SCA was either, but after a Google search, I think **LurkMeister** may have been talking about the [Society for Creative Anachronism](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_for_Creative_Anachronism) – some kind of medieval re-creationists. They look like losers to me  
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Fuck you, too.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/270 "2008-08-28T14:40:09Z")

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[QUOTE=MrDibble]  
Fuck you, too.  
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Can’t you declare war on his kingdom, or something?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/271 "2008-08-28T14:47:26Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
Can’t you declare war on his kingdom, or something?  
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Shut the fuck up, you fucking troll.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/272 "2008-08-28T15:12:18Z")

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[QUOTE=MrDibble]  
Shut the fuck up, you fucking troll.  
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Have you ever seen “Anger Management”, you lightweight fucking sap!

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**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/273 "2008-08-28T16:12:09Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
And some have their settings wrongly aligned, so they are picking up their own signal.  
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I think this may be the most ironic post I have ever read.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/274 "2008-08-28T16:16:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
I didn’t know what SCA was either, but after a Google search, I think LurkMeister may have been talking about the Society for Creative Anachronism – some kind of medieval re-creationists. They look like losers to me.  
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Well, I see you’ve managed to raise douchebaggery to an artform. Let me know when you move up to fingerpainting.

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/275 "2008-08-28T16:57:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Q.E.D.]  
Well, I see you’ve managed to raise douchebaggery to an artform. Let me know when you move up to fingerpainting.  
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SCAdian, are you?

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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/276 "2008-08-28T17:02:56Z")

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Maybe he just doesn’t classify people as losers simply for having unusual hobbies. Why the constant presumption that a defense of X or surprise at apparently unnecessary antagonism towards X must come as a result of personal membership within X?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/277 "2008-08-28T17:09:35Z")

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There’s having a hobby and then there’s dressing up in chainmail and going around saying “forsooth,” pretending to be a knight. It seems a little childish to me. Sorry.

ETA, I realize I don’t know any of these people personally. I just get an image of the Patton Oswalt character on Reno 9/11, if anyone is familiar with that reference.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/278 "2008-08-28T17:16:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
There’s having a hobby and then there’s dressing up in chainmail and going around saying “forsooth,” pretending to be a knight. It seems a little childish to me. Sorry.  
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The more this conversation goes on, the less I’m convinced that “childlike (in the fantasy/imaginative sense)” is a priori bad, like many others seem to think.

I’d agree that “childlike (petty and small-minded)” is to be condemned, certainly, but I don’t understand the hate for traditionally playful pursuits carried into adulthood.

I realize they’re not traditional, but at the same time I can’t really take too seriously anyone who’d suggest that I, with my manager-level job and college degree and shelves with hundreds of well-thumbed boos, am somehow less mature or less worthwhile of a person because I happen to have a collection of legos, or play video games as my primary recreation, or play airsoft/paintball with a Russian uniform with appropriate patches, or whatever it is I do. I don’t think those things define my maturity level any more than enjoying watching TV regularly makes one a drone or reading a lot makes one a boring bookworm.

Is there some list of approved adult leisure activities that I could be referencing here so I can scoff dismissively at it? Hell, my freakin’ grandmother-in-law understands video games once she saw a LAN party (True story–she was curious and dropped by when I attended one in her town. Her response was along the lines of “when you strip away the computers, it’s not so different from bingo or bridge circle, is it?”)

[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
ETA, I realize I don’t know any of these people personally. I just get an image of the Patton Oswalt character on Reno 9/11, if anyone is familiar with that reference.  
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I think maybe the biggest issue here is that you’re seeing the stereotypes/caricatures out there. My wife’s in the SCA, and she does it as a method to learn/teach classical/archaic textile techniques–sewing her own costumes, doing pattern research from historical texts, recreating spinning/weaving methods. She only dresses up in the garb for weekend events once or twice a year, and at that point it’s effectively the Super Bowl Weekend for history dorks.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/279 "2008-08-28T17:30:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
There’s having a hobby and then there’s dressing up in chainmail and going around saying “forsooth,” pretending to be a knight. It seems a little childish to me. Sorry.  
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What’s the difference that makes this childish, but being a stage or film actor acceptable? If I get a kick out of dressing up like a knight and speaking archaically, why does it say something different about me if I’m improving my own lines, or reciting the St. Crispin’s Day speech?

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/280 "2008-08-28T17:32:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Zeriel]  
and shelves with hundreds of well-thumbed boos  
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Does anybody else find this hot?

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