# Hostile Dialect; A Word, Please.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 27, 2008, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375 "2008-08-27T01:53:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/21 "2008-08-27T03:40:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Duck Duck Goose]

ETA: for those of you who evidently aren’t getting it–this would be you, DtC–the point is not whether a topic, or hobby, may be judged intrinsically silly by bystanders; the point is that a thread discussing a topic, or hobby, on the Straight Dope Message Board, is, according to the rules, entitled to be accorded respect by bystanders, which would include not posting snotty, snide, inane, or mocking remarks in the middle of said hobbyists’ discussion.  
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I’d add the slight caveat that the rule is particularly strong in MPSIMS, the most social forum on the board. **Ivan’s** comments were mostly inappropriate _for the forum_.

That discussion is, uh, interesting though I’m not prepared to accept that furrydom can be dismissed as a mere hobby, or at least not for a lot of folks. And my eyeballs just about rolled clear in back of of my skull over even some of the tamer chat in the MPSIMS thread. People can do whatever the hell they want as long they don’t harm others or clog traffic in passing lanes. More power to 'em, long may they way but this being the Dope and all, we’re still allowed to think they’re ridiculous. I rank furries somewhere down with Scientologists, though they’re more pathetic than dangerous.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/22 "2008-08-27T03:42:00Z")

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Missed the edit window.( I was distracted.)

Tomndebb = straight, veering towards “Furry”.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/23 "2008-08-27T03:43:35Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
I’m not sure what either of you mean, but here’s my guess at the demographic so far  
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Ah, the ‘making up shit about people’ route. This is going to go _great_.

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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/24 "2008-08-27T03:46:27Z")

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Are you categorizing people by whether or not they, themselves, are furries? What does “neutral” mean?

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/25 "2008-08-27T03:47:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Marley23]  
Ah, the ‘making up shit about people’ route. This is going to go _great_.  
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Oh, what the hell, I’ll take it. Maybe it’ll liven up my image around here! 🙂

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**Author:** ![freekalette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/50afbb/32.png) [@freekalette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freekalette)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/26 "2008-08-27T03:49:49Z")

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LOL I’m so not a furry. Do a search for my name, I’ve posted about my sexual orientation at length.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/27 "2008-08-27T03:51:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Marley23]  
Ah, the ‘making up shit about people’ route. This is going to go _great_.  
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I did ask first. I’m just trying to get an idea of the sort of numbers I’m up against. It’s easy enough to weed out who’s who in the original thread, but I was hoping to see if they had a militant branch. I’ll go with…er…neutral for yourself, **Marley23**. Am I right?

p.s \*\*‘neutral’ \*\*means ‘doesn’t give a damn’, as opposed to **‘straight’** , which means a little unnerved.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/28 "2008-08-27T03:55:32Z")

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[QUOTE=freekalette]  
LOL I’m so not a furry. Do a search for my name, I’ve posted about my sexual orientation at length.  
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Are you _sure_?

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/29 "2008-08-27T03:57:00Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
I did ask first. I’m just trying to get an idea of the sort of numbers I’m up against. It’s easy enough to weed out who’s who in the original thread, but I was hoping to see if they had a militant branch.

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**Ivan** , you’re hopelessly outnumbered. Forget furries, pal. They aren’t your problem. It’s you vs. anybody with a lick of sense.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/30 "2008-08-27T03:58:03Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
I’m not sure what either of you mean, but here’s my guess at the demographic so far;  
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Are “furry” and “straight” mutually exclusive, or is this just a guess at dominant tendencies?  
I’m not a furry, though I started a thread about a CSI episode that discussed them.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/31 "2008-08-27T03:58:04Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
Are you _sure_?  
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Do a search on her name with “slave.”

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/32 "2008-08-27T03:59:54Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
I did ask first. I’m just trying to get an idea of the sort of numbers I’m up against. It’s easy enough to weed out who’s who in the original thread, but I was hoping to see if they had a militant branch. I’ll go with…er…neutral for yourself, **Marley23**. Am I right?

p.s \*\*‘neutral’ \*\*means ‘doesn’t give a damn’, as opposed to **‘straight’** , which means a little unnerved.  
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Wow…I thought you were joking. If you really think it’s important to know who’s who, I suggest you go back to the other thread…and read for comprehension this time.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/33 "2008-08-27T04:05:27Z")

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You really are a spastic little monkey, aren’t you, **ivan**?

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/34 "2008-08-27T04:08:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
Are “furry” and “straight” mutually exclusive, or is this just a guess at dominant tendencies?  
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It’s entirely exclusive. “Furries” like sexy animals and dressing up, ‘straights’ get a little creeped out by the passion involved.

[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]

I’m not a furry, though I started a thread about a CSI episode that discussed them.  
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Not suspicious in and of itself, but I’m going to question your subconscious motives, all the same. While I’m pondering my denial about my gayness. 😉

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/35 "2008-08-27T04:08:44Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
I did ask first. I’m just trying to get an idea of the sort of numbers I’m up against.  
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You mean the non-idiots?

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/36 "2008-08-27T04:10:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Bosstone]  
You really are a spastic little monkey, aren’t you, **ivan**?  
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Are you calling me a “Furry”? I resent that remark.

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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/37 "2008-08-27T04:10:43Z")

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Not to pile on (well, yes, actually; specifically to pile on), but why use the word “straight” to mean “[is] a little unnerved [by furries]”? That would appear to be at odds with other uses of the word (e.g., in its most common sexual use (to denote heterosexuals), straight people are not necessarily _unnerved_ by non-straight people).

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/38 "2008-08-27T04:10:57Z")

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Damn, who would’ve thought the furry thread, inspired by a pit thread, would spawn a pit thread?

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/39 "2008-08-27T04:12:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Indistinguishable]  
Not to pile on (well, yes, actually; specifically to pile on), but why use the word “straight” to mean “[is] a little unnerved [by furries]”? That would appear to be at odds with other uses of the word (e.g., in its most common sexual use (to denote heterosexuals), straight people are not necessarily _unnerved_ by non-straight people).  
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Straights, i.e. right-thinking people, should properly be unnerved and suspicious of the [del]queers[/del] furries.

Of course, this misses the whole point in the other thread that the whole business isn’t just about sex. But you can’t make as much fun of that, so it’s off to the races he goes.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/40 "2008-08-27T04:15:17Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
It’s entirely exclusive. “Furries” like sexy animals and dressing up, ‘straights’ get a little creeped out by the passion involved.  
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By those definitions, I’m neither furry nor straight.

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> Not suspicious in and of itself, but I’m going to question your subconscious motives, all the same. While I’m pondering my denial about my gayness. 😉

Not _you_, doof: Hostile Dialect. In light of his posts to the recent “asexual” thread, clearly he’s so humourless about his gayness that he can be set off by with the slightest effort. He’s the unexploded World War One munition of queerdom.

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