# Hostile Dialect; A Word, Please. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 27, 2008, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375 "2008-08-27T01:53:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/41 "2008-08-27T04:16:13Z")
Before you get on any homophobic hobby-horse, you kinky bastards, remember who brought it into the thread first. [QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] Call him gay but in denial. That’ll be good for some laughs. [/QUOTE] eta . Retracted slightly, in light of the post above. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/42 "2008-08-27T04:20:34Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] By those definitions, I’m neither furry nor straight. [/QUOTE] I knew you was a neutral really. I was just getting you back for what you explain about below. 🙂 [QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] Not _you_, doof: Hostile Dialect. In light of his posts to the recent “asexual” thread, clearly he’s so humourless about his gayness that he can be set off by with the slightest effort. He’s the unexploded World War One munition of queerdom. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/43 "2008-08-27T04:35:42Z")
I agree that the OP is being a tad oversensitive and that what he did was kind of rude and I suppose it probably did qualify as “threadshitting”. On the other hand, we’re talking about furries so who cares. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/44 "2008-08-27T04:51:29Z")
People who respect people who happen to be furries? **Silver Tyger Girl** is, in my experience, an interesting and fun member of the dope. Right now, **5-HT** , you’re just being a dick. ---
**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/45 "2008-08-27T04:54:09Z")
[QUOTE=Darth Sensitive] Right now, **5-HT** , you’re just being a dick. [/QUOTE] That’s probably true. But I’m comfortable with that when it comes to this subculture. If it helps, I was a raver back in the mid-90s for a couple years, you’re all more than welcome to mock me for that. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/46 "2008-08-27T05:12:28Z")
[QUOTE=ivan astikov] Before you get on any homophobic hobby-horse, you kinky bastards, remember who brought it into the thread first. [/QUOTE] You thought **Ekers** ’s post was an insult directed at _you_? You really are weapon-grade stupid, aren’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/47 "2008-08-27T05:12:59Z")
[QUOTE=5-HT] I was a raver back in the mid-90s for a couple years, you’re all more than welcome to mock me for that. [/QUOTE] The most I can summon is contempt and pity, and not much of either. ---
**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/48 "2008-08-27T05:22:40Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] The most I can summon is contempt and pity, and not much of either. [/QUOTE] How were we supposed to realize how stupid we looked, what with all the drugs and strobe lights? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/49 "2008-08-27T05:24:35Z")
If you can’t make fun of somebody who goes around in a panda suit pretending to be a panda, who _can_ you make fun of? Can I still mock 2nd Life losers? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/50 "2008-08-27T05:26:02Z")
I’d just like to thank **STG** and **ivan** for providing a very entertaining day. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/51 "2008-08-27T05:27:10Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] If you can’t make fun of somebody who goes around in a panda suit pretending to be a panda, who _can_ you make fun of? [/QUOTE] Shit, man, I think they’re hilarious. There’s nobody in **STG** ’s thread that fits that particular bill, though. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/52 "2008-08-27T05:29:20Z")
[QUOTE=Bosstone] Shit, man, I think they’re hilarious. There’s nobody in **STG** ’s thread that fits that particular bill, though. [/QUOTE] What, wearing cat ears is any different? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/53 "2008-08-27T05:31:55Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] If you can’t make fun of somebody who goes around in a panda suit pretending to be a panda, who _can_ you make fun of? [/QUOTE] I try to avoid making fun of people who aren’t hurting others. I save that for our ample global supply of assholes and idiots. You know, folks like yourself, or the OP. I mean, heck, it’s not like you’re good for anything else, is it? ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/54 "2008-08-27T05:36:48Z")
Whereas I’ll make fun of those who take themselves too seriously… Uh oh. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/55 "2008-08-27T05:40:37Z")
Look, the internet is a double edged sword for these sort of things. The internet has done amazing things to allow people that like dressing up like animals/wearing diapers/pretending to be vampires to come together and find each other. It provides a feeling of community and fellowship for just about any random lifestyle choice you can come up with. The other side is that the internet is public, and thus you’re going to draw attention to yourself from people that don’t share your hobby. Some of those people will take this opportunity to mock you. If you do something bizarre and advertise it publically, you’re taking the chance that you’re going to get called on it. What the OP did was mildly rude, but I don’t think it was anything to get worked up about. You’re being weird, people make fun of weird things. big deal. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/56 "2008-08-27T05:50:10Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] I try to avoid making fun of people who aren’t hurting others. [/QUOTE] I dunno, [anthropomorphism](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphism) is arguably harmful, though I trust that not all furries practice it without reflection. (Actually, I haven’t a clue what furries do and don’t do, as a brief glance at STF’s links squicked me out.) Love the sinner, hate the sin I say. Jeez, I’m feeling like a fundamentalist. I guess I can understand why somebody might want to wear a cat ears or a bunny costume. I just can’t fathom how they would expect to be treated with seriousness and respect in such a state. I for one would be reluctant to show up in court wearing [nose glasses](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nose_glasses). ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/57 "2008-08-27T05:56:11Z")
[QUOTE=Measure for Measure] Whereas I’ll make fun of those who take themselves too seriously… [/QUOTE] Exactly. Anyone who is going to behave in such a wildly eccentric fashion as to dress and pretend to live as a stuffed animal is going to have to deal with the fact that they look ridiculous to others, and that others have no obligation to “respect their lifestyle.” The thing is, nobody here would get upset if people made light fun of people who went around wearing Spock ears or vampire fangs. It’s all voluntary, and sometimes certain subcultures and fashions look stupid. It’s not like we’re talking about involuntary orientations here, or some other class like race or gender or even fat people. We’re talking about people who, of their own free will, choose to immerse themselves in childish fantasy lifestyles and then want to complain about how misunderstood they are, and that no one takes them seriously. I say they’d be better off taking off the mouse costumes, getting some therapy and learning how to live and interact with others as real human beings. ---
**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/58 "2008-08-27T05:58:44Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Exactly. Anyone who is going to behave in such a wildly eccentric fashion as to dress and pretend to live as a stuffed animal is going to have to deal with the fact that they look ridiculous to others, and that others have no obligation to “respect their lifestyle.” The thing is, nobody here would get upset if people made light fun of people who went around wearing Spock ears or vampire fangs. It’s all voluntary, and sometimes certain subcultures and fashions look stupid. It’s not like we’re talking about involuntary orientations here, or some other class like race or gender or even fat people. We’re talking about people who, of their own free will, choose to immerse themselves in childish fantasy lifestyles and then want to complain about how misunderstood they are, and that no one takes them seriously. I say they’d be better off taking off the mouse costumes, getting some therapy and learning how to live and interact with others as real human beings. [/QUOTE] yeah, I pretty much agree with all of that. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/59 "2008-08-27T06:09:57Z")
[QUOTE=Measure for Measure] I dunno, [anthropomorphism](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphism) is arguably harmful, though I trust that not all furries practice it without reflection. (Actually, I haven’t a clue what furries do and don’t do, as a brief glance at STF’s links squicked me out.) [/quote] Okay, you’re going to have to help me out with what the fuck you’re on about with that link. Aesop’s fables are arguably harmful? Tenniel’s illustrations from Alison in Wonderland are somehow a danger now? Seriously, what the hell? > [@](#): > > Love the sinner, hate the sin I say. Jeez, I’m feeling like a fundamentalist. That’s the sort of thought that usually makes me reconsider my basic assumption. YMMV. > [@](#): > > I guess I can understand why somebody might want to wear a cat ears or a bunny costume. I just can’t fathom how they would expect to be treated with seriousness and respect in such a state. I for one would be reluctant to show up in court wearing [nose glasses](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nose_glasses). How much deviation from the norm is allowable before one can no longer expect to be treated with respect? > [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > The thing is, nobody here would get upset if people made light fun of people who went around wearing Spock ears or vampire fangs. Calling people mentally ill is “light fun” in your book? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375/60 "2008-08-27T06:11:07Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] Calling people mentally ill is “light fun” in your book? [/QUOTE] Who did I call mentally ill? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hostile-dialect-a-word-please/461375.md?page=4)