# Hot Apple Pie With Cheese - And Other Foods That Have Gone Out Of Fashion **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 16, 2003, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529 "2003-11-16T07:47:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529/21 "2003-11-17T00:05:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Slithy Tove \* > **Chicken and waffles from “Milderd Pierce.” Other 1930’s books also mention this combination.** I’ve seen chicken and waffles offered in several diners and restaurants. It’s eaten the way chipped beef on toast is eaten. Creamed chicken is poured over plain waffles (no syrup). I heard this story from a high-school teacher: the students were all designing a town for a lesson on land use planning. One kid–I’ll call him John–put in his dream business, a place he called “Big John’s Chicken, Waffle, and Strip Joint.” Bar food–are wings a recent addition to bar food? I don’t remember chicken wings being popular until about 20 years ago, but I wasn’t hanging out in bars during the 70s. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529/22 "2003-11-17T03:35:46Z")
Apple pie with cheese in the midwest? Just head north from Duluth. For example, Betty’s Pies: [http://www.bettyspies.com/index.htm](http://www.bettyspies.com/index.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529/23 "2003-11-17T03:43:56Z")
Liver-you don’t see nearly as many people eating liver. Ditto salt on EVERYTHING-my aunt still does this. She even puts salt on her SALAD. What’s up with that? ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529/24 "2003-11-17T04:06:57Z")
I was served apple pie with a non-melted slab of cheese on top in a Boston restaurant in 1976. I had never heard of this before, and approached it gingerly, thinking t must be some sort of weird vanilla ice cream, and thi as some kind o trendy pie a la mode. It turned out to be a non-cheddar cheese (reminded me of Swiss, without the holes). Odd thing is, I haven;t seen o heard of it since. ---
**Author:** ![Lillith\_Fair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bb73d2/32.png) [@Lillith\_Fair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lillith_Fair)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529/25 "2003-11-17T04:25:51Z")
My mother has always loved cheddar cheese melted on top of apple pie. She could probably also eat a whole watermelon. Just giver her a salt shaker. Re: marshmallows on pumpkin pie–that person must have been mixed up with sweet potatoes or yams that are often served with marshmallows on top. My husband must have real whipped cream on his. My friend KittenBlue keeps telling me about some place on the east side of Cleveland that serves waffles, chicken, and maple syrup. She keeps wanting me to try it. This sounds really terrible to me. Does anyone else think that cilantro tastes like toothpaste? ---
**Author:** ![MisterThyristor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecccb3/32.png) [@MisterThyristor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MisterThyristor)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529/26 "2003-11-17T04:44:30Z")
I remember reading a study that had been done on which foods compliment each other, and the primary example given was apple pie and cheddar cheese. I order it even if I don’t see it on the menu, just ask the waitress to add some cheddar to the top of the apple pie and re-heat it. As far as marshmallows on top of pumpkin pie, are you sure you’re not thinking of marshmallows on top of candied yams? I have seen that many times but never on pumpkin pie. (On review, I see **mala** mentions sweet potato pie, which is along the same line as candied yams.) Fizzies are still available (at least they were in the last 6 mos. or so, I got them for someone as a gag gift) and still just as nasty. (If someone is really interested, I will track down my source.) And salt on salad is not so weird when you consider that a standard oil-and-vinegar dressing usually calls for salt and pepper. If there was another dressing already on the salad, I wouldn’t salt it, but if they bring cruets of oil and vinegar to the table, I usually add salt and pepper to the salad. ---
**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529/27 "2003-11-17T05:10:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lillith Fair \* > \*\*Does anyone else think that cilantro tastes like toothpaste? \*\* Not toothpaste, per se, but fresh cilantro tastes like cilantro, and that’s enough for me to avoid it. I buy cilantro to feed the lizard, but I always have to wash my hands thoroughly after handling it or the smell will nauseate me all day. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529/28 "2003-11-17T05:26:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Violet \* > \*\*Bleh! One thing (and maybe a few others) I could never try is apple pie with cheese on top. \*\* I’m not a fan of it at all. But every single time I have apple pie at my parents house, I get to hear the nifty little rhyme: “Apple pie without the cheese Is like a kiss without the squeeze” followed by chortling from my dad (and no, he didn’t make it up.) Several times. Until there’s no more pie to be eaten. In case I had somehow missed it the first several thousand times he’s repeated it over the past 20-something years. I really do love my parents. But I’m very glad that I don’t have their sense of humor. Or taste. But I don’t see people eating liver or tongue anymore. Maybe I’m just shielding myself. ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529/29 "2003-11-17T05:31:01Z")
My grandfather used to put ketchup on his sausage. Ewwww. ---
**Author:** ![TeaElle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@TeaElle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeaElle)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529/30 "2003-11-17T05:31:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by sugaree \* > \*\*I’ve seen chicken and waffles offered in several diners and restaurants. It’s eaten the way chipped beef on toast is eaten. Creamed chicken is poured over plain waffles (no syrup). \*\* By contrast, I have _never_ seen such a thing. If you go to a chicken and waffle joint, like the famous Roscoe’s in Los Angeles, you’re served fried chicken and waffles with butter and syrup. I’m not sure where that combo comes from, but it’s surprisingly popular. As for cilantro – when it tastes of soap or something acidic, that’s a sign that you’re actually allergic to it. The allergy manifests itself as a soapy taste and an aversion to the smell. ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529/31 "2003-11-17T05:33:26Z")
Chicken and waffles? The Church’s here in ATL are offering a combo thing of waffle strips and chicken strips for $1.99. I daresay it’s more common in urban areas. ---
**Author:** ![percypercy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@percypercy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/percypercy)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529/32 "2003-11-17T07:45:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Slithy Tove \* > \*\* Speaking of turkeys, I once asked the owner of a local oyster farm if his business increased at Thanksgiving or Christmas due to oyster stuffing, and he said he’s never known anyone to actually prepare it. > \*\* My family are big cooks and dressing/stuffing eaters. Whenever we make it, we always have a plain pan and one with oysters in it. They seem to be eaten about proportionally. Is apple pie with cheese similar to a pear salad(also containing cheese)? If it is, I’m thinking I wouldn’t like it. -Lil ---
**Author:** ![otterish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e68b1a/32.png) [@otterish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/otterish)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529/33 "2003-11-17T07:45:57Z")
Food that’s gone? What happened to soda pop made with actual (cane or beet) sugar? IMHO, high fructose corn syrup is eeeevil, and should be banned like asbestos. \ :dubious: I agree with tarragon918 about the country ham. Even though I’ve given up pork, I would be sorely tempted by a country ham. I’m safe, though, because I can’t FIND it here in SW Michigan. Everything is sugar-cured. ---
**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529/34 "2003-11-17T07:56:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Slithy Tove \* > \*\*Chicken and waffles from “Milderd Pierce.” Other 1930’s books also mention this combination. > \*\* I live right next door to a restaurant called ‘Big Mama’s Chicken and Waffles’ and they are always VERY busy. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529/35 "2003-11-17T13:34:43Z")
Fizzies [http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/fizzies/](http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/fizzies/) ---
**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529/36 "2003-11-17T14:04:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Badtz Maru \* > \*\*I live right next door to a restaurant called ‘Big Mama’s Chicken and Waffles’ and they are always VERY busy. \*\* But the burning question: with or without maple syrup? ---
**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529/37 "2003-11-17T14:28:43Z")
Apple pie with cheddar cheese? Are you mad? Wensleydale is much nicer. ---
**Author:** ![WavyDavy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3da27b/32.png) [@WavyDavy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WavyDavy)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529/38 "2003-11-17T14:42:29Z")
I grew up eating my apple pie with a big slice of cheddar cheese on the top. I love it that way. Adding ice cream makes it too sweet! Also, at Thanksgiving my mother would make oyster dressings with one corner plain marked with some tooth picks. It lookeed like a little picket fence in the cassarole dish. I hated oyster dressing as a kid but now I can’t get enough. Its a real MD-DEL-VA eastern shore dish AFAIK. ---
**Author:** ![Lissla\_Lissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lissla\_Lissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissla_Lissar)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529/39 "2003-11-17T15:04:59Z")
There’s a recipe for an apple pie with cheddar in the pastry in Nigella Lawson’s _How To Be A Domestic Goddess_. It’s a great cookbook. Syllabub isn’t common anymore, but I want to try making some. Alcoholic whipped cream- yum. Fruitcake is traditional for wedding cakes, but it’s gradually being displaced by regular cakes. ---
**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529/40 "2003-11-17T15:12:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lissla Lissar \* > \*\*Fruitcake is traditional for wedding cakes, but it’s gradually being displaced by regular cakes. \*\* I’ve never heard of [that](http://www.thecakery.com/groomscake.html) before. I wonder if the tradition lingered on longer in Canada than in the US, or if it just never caught on in the Hunky (as my grandmother-in-law calls us) culture in which I grew up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hot-apple-pie-with-cheese-and-other-foods-that-have-gone-out-of-fashion/213529.md?page=3)